How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[ColdestHeaven]

I think I've got the gist of it. I'll try this next time and see if I make it.

[PrincessBusty]

Super helpful advice.

Thanks dude! This isn't the first time I've taken your advice from this thread, and I appreciate your direct feedback ♥

[Gripen]

What are you guys aiming for in terms of pre A8s kill gear set? Personally I'm getting this one:

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UA90

To be honest it's a pretty bad one but I'm to cheap to redo a lot of grade V melds and we decided on having Vit melds during progression so this is what I'm left with. If I'm lucky enough to get my chest piece and the spear I'm gonna go for this one:

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/TVJH

Any thoughts?

[JackFross]

Any thoughts?

Lots of thoughts!

I really value the ability to NOT re-meld my gear going from pre-A8S to BiS, so I focused my pre-A8S set on this exact concept. Before I started building a set to use with the Anima coming next week, this is what I would have been building toward:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UA9Y

That said - I know that set is sub-optimal. I'm building toward this, currently, only obviously sub the Anima in where the Midan spear is:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UA9X

Note that both of those sets have THREE Vitality V melds on them - this bumps your max health to 20620 as a Xaela with Flint Caviar, 20743 with Pipira Pira. You can stand to drop one of those melds, but absolutely not all three. 19800 with Pipira is nice, but not for progression. That extra ~1000 health could make or break you surviving a mechanic.


That said, my best in slot is pretty much identical to that, with just the singular change of swapping out the chest piece and turning the VIT melds into actual melds:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UA9Z


Your BiS looks pretty good, though! It's a bit lower weight than mine (by ~2.5 effective strength), but it should work just fine, if you prefer running ~600 sks.

[MiniTyra]

I'd just go for this set: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UA9Z

It's the set that Dervy is aiming for and just use whatever i240 weapon you can get your hands on. That way, Pre-A8S is exactly the same as Post-A8S, only a Midan Spear swap. Chances are, Relic will be customisable and would best be invested into crit/det and there's a high chance Nidhogg weapon will be i240 Crit/Det. If it's Accuracy/Det, then of course, we'll have to see which is better :P

[JackFross]

That way, Pre-A8S is exactly the same as Post-A8S, only a Midan Spear swap.

The Midan Jacket of Maiming drops from A8S as well, so you'll be missing that before killing, as well. That has a pretty substantial impact on how you build that set. If the issue was just SKS from the spear, then yeah, it'd be great, but both non-Midan options for the chest have 70+ SKS on them IN ADDITION TO the skill speed from the spear, all of which stacks on top of the 558, forcing you to sit at 712 Skill Speed - quite a bit more than is realistically worthwhile.

It's also been confirmed - 100% confirmed - that the next patch will bring 240 Anima relics with completely customizable stats. Screenshots seem to imply a 120 maximum for Crit/Acc/Sks and a 115 maximum for Det, with 228 maximum stat points allowed to be allocated (the exact same amount of points you can put on an i240 Slipstream spear - 120 Crit + 84 Sks + 24 Det = 228 total points).

[MiniTyra]

Oh it drops from A8S? That's a bummer. Maybe I should of been paying more attention to the items that drop, lmao.

[JackFross]

Yeah, it's kinda weird this time around.

A5S - Belts + Accessories
A6S - Two each of Head/Hands/Feet per Job + Deep Gobcoat + Tomestone
A7S - Leftover of Head/Hands/Feet per Job + Legs + Deep Gobtwine + Deep Gobdip
A8S - Chest + Weapon

A6S pages work for all of Head/Hands/Feet - 6 per, so most people who are not Dragoon because the Mask drops in 7 and it sucks will buy their 7 drop with their first 6 pages from 6.

To be honest, I wish they had put the Legs and Chests into that same pool of gear and had one in 7 and one in 8, with it differing per Job to give the good one in 7 and the shittier one in 8 :C... Or even just to let the 7 pages buy chest pieces.

[CookieMonsta]

Yeah, it's kinda weird this time around.

A5S - Belts + Accessories
A6S - Two each of Head/Hands/Feet per Job + Deep Gobcoat + Tomestone
A7S - Leftover of Head/Hands/Feet per Job + Legs + Deep Gobtwine + Deep Gobdip
A8S - Chest + Weapon

A6S pages work for all of Head/Hands/Feet - 6 per, so most people who are not Dragoon because the Mask drops in 7 and it sucks will buy their 7 drop with their first 6 pages from 6.

To be honest, I wish they had put the Legs and Chests into that same pool of gear and had one in 7 and one in 8, with it differing per Job to give the good one in 7 and the shittier one in 8 :C... Or even just to let the 7 pages buy chest pieces.

or even better, I wish they let the chest drop from 7S with the only things dropping from A8S are the weapons and a selection of cool mounts/pets. I feel getting the chest as a drop from A8S feels like a troll drop since you could've gotten the massively better weapon.

[JackFross]

or even better, I wish they let the chest drop from 7S with the only things dropping from A8S are the weapons and a selection of cool mounts/pets. I feel getting the chest as a drop from A8S feels like a troll drop since you could've gotten the massively better weapon.

Well, it's two chests, no? It drops weapon and chest. And - at least for me - the chest is a larger upgrade than the weapon, due to using the 220 crafted in my final no-8 set.