How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Thyranne]

Where exactly should I be to hit 3 adds with Geirsokul?

---A
B C D
---E

Should I stay right on top of E and target A? (ignore the -----).

[JackFross]

Where exactly should I be to hit 3 adds with Geirsokul?

---A
B C D
---E

Should I stay right on top of E and target A? (ignore the -----).

I generally target C the whole time. If you target C and stand on E, your gsk will shoot through A-C-E. You can pull out and get back in in the span of a GCD, so you won't lose anything.

Seen here.

[raela]

Welp, Wednesday we didn't raid due to three members with severe lag, Thursday we didn't raid because two members quit, Friday logged into broken LS.. oh well. The idea of trying for an A5S clear via PF terrifies me (still no luck with Seph Ex, will focus that), so lore gear it is. Not too optimistic about finding another static anytime soon. Back to lurking - thanks for all of the help!

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

@Jack

The reason I said 1-2 ticks is because they would be doing the 2nd Full Thrust combo where some of it (I'm not sure how much of it admittedly) would be unbuffed by Disembowel, so I was giving an estimate of how much it'd take compared to that specific usage. I did word it a bit weird :P

And on adding in oGCDs on A6S adds, I didn't mention that because oGCD usage should be a given and they were asking about GCD usage specifically. I know how the phase works, but I will say there's no real reason the middle one has to die at the same time. Typically, I do RoT spam while adding in all of the oGCDs (Dragonfire as well from saving it), and it all dies with maybe 1-2 single target GCDs having to go out on the big one (in my old group. They all die same time in my current one). It's still quicker overall if everyone AoEs because melee can still get their Autoattacks and oGCD on the middle one and it'll die roughly same time, but AoEing will cause other party members to trade off an AoE GCD or two for a single target one, and it usually comes out being 1-2 GCD total less.

Just wanted to clarify some of my stances

[aleph_null]

I've heard here and there that some people miss at above 700 accu, but I don't know which sources are reliable and which are not. I guess I'll have to see for myself when I reach A8S lol.

[Thyranne]

I generally target C the whole time. If you target C and stand on E, your gsk will shoot through A-C-E. You can pull out and get back in in the span of a GCD, so you won't lose anything.

Seen here.

Ah ok thank you. I have one more question that I forgot to ask: if there is only 1 add next to the boss right when I use Heavy Thrust, should I use Ring of Thorns to hit both boss and add or start a Full Thrust combo (add dies right when I finish the combo)?

[JackFross]

If the mob spawns just after your Heavy Thrust, you should hit it with Impulse Drive and passive AoE and not waste your time attacking it, since it's Chaos Thrust time! If you plan ahead, you should be able to slap it with a Geirskogul. You can use anything that's not Disembowel, Chaos Thrust, or Phlebotomize to hit the add. I'll sometimes burn an ogcd attack or two on the Gobbledygroper if it's being enough of a dick, but it usually just eats my TTT combo after that phleb alongside the third gsk in that BotD.

[Jeycht]

You have something silly in there. Why are you using an ACC III in the hat? If you swap it for ACC V, you'll be able to swap the ACC V on the belt to CRIT V and end up with a net gain of +12 CRIT over what you're running.

See here.

In comparison, the set I'm (probably, but maybe not) building toward is this one. I just want 600 Det, pretty much.

*a bit late*

Last time I have check the acc cap that was 712 but I would definitly drop a acc materia for a crit on that belt too. (or Momo Sama meld in the other post)
I have never try to decrease my acc and check myself tbh.

[JackFross]

All current reports have been saying 699-700. The only person I've seen say otherwise was the person on the previous page of this thread. I'm still aiming 705 because it feels a bit safer.

[aleph_null]

All current reports have been saying 699-700. The only person I've seen say otherwise was the person on the previous page of this thread. I'm still aiming 705 because it feels a bit safer.

Just to clarify, I'm just saying that I've seen posts like:

Frontal cap is 703-705 for A8S

(taken from an accu thread in the tank subforum)

and also some similar posts on reddit that I don't really feel like searching for. Personally I haven't even stepped foot inside A7S, let alone A8S, so I don't really have anything to report. XD