How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[JackFross]

Just be sure to be at max melee range. MT disengages to north. Not sure if you can fit in more with careful positioning -- just the two gets pretty tight.

That seems pretty doable, I'm just scared people would get hit haha;; Maybe something to try out with my group once we have the kill and are pushing to maximize. Pulling off barely impacts my dps - only the drill does anything noteworthy and I have it down to less than a gcd's loss with how I handle it atm, anyway.

I'm just a noob who hasn't even gotten past Brawler yet (mostly wiping on Blaster still) but when we do get to try Brawler, it seems to work fine when positioning like in the above image and having both tanks stack on one of the melee at max melee range while the other melee moves in slightly closer. Haven't seen the stacked group get hit yet.

Inefficient to have the tanks get off the boss. Just stack 3 melee on one side and one on the other.

This seems super dangerous to me. If the melee who's baiting is even a hair too close, you wipe the raid. It's something I'd consider suggesting we try out once the fight's dead. Just seems way too scary to risk wiping for a minor DPS gain.

Second vortexer bait can be done by having everyone stack up immediately after the second water is passed. Location of the stack will vary, depending on where you put your first tornado. My group handles fire beams the same as A3S waves, except both tanks stack, to leave the first tornado spot empty. Third pass is after cyclone, so we stack near the middle ready to be pushed back to the correct spots.

This is a completely different strategy than the one my group is doing, and not a lick of this has anything to do with the Vortexer questions I asked. I was asking "how do people min-max Vortexer as Dragoon because of the copious time off the boss to properly handle mechanics" not "how does your group handle mechanics?" Thanks for taking the time to reply, though!