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    Tonkosi's Avatar
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    Chao Su
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    need help am i doing something wrong? i can clear a5s dummy with crits on and off. im a week away from upgrading to lore pants which will give me crit/det is 590 ss still optimal for drgs?
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    Khadroth's Avatar
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    Kara Ragna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkosi View Post
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/9688754/

    need help am i doing something wrong? i can clear a5s dummy with crits on and off. im a week away from upgrading to lore pants which will give me crit/det is 590 ss still optimal for drgs?
    Well from just a cursory look at your equipment, you seem to have chosen some upgrades poorly, though I can't say for sure without knowing what you started with. That 190 ring needs to be gotten rid of asap (190 to 220 would be an 11 str upgrade right there). Outside of that, you simply haven't been getting your weekly midas story tokens. You seem be placing an over emphasis on making sure your secondaries are perfect amounts (645 acc, 620 sksp) while shooting your main stat in the foot (I'm sitting at ilvl 220 with 44 more str than you, despite not having a savage drop or this week's lore upgrade yet). Don't be afraid to go over on accuracy or skillspeed temporarily. As long as it's for the sake of grabbing an upgrade you can adjust to make it work.
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    Last edited by Khadroth; 03-11-2016 at 02:53 AM.

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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkosi View Post
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/9688754/

    need help am i doing something wrong? i can clear a5s dummy with crits on and off. im a week away from upgrading to lore pants which will give me crit/det is 590 ss still optimal for drgs?
    You should be crushing the dummy with that gear, not only on a lucky parse. At full i210 with 210 spear, the dummy is killable on-and-off. The addition of the Sephirot spear makes the check a non-issue. If you're struggly for consistency, you really need to look no further than right here:


    That is low - no joke. With the stats pouring out this patch, you should be able to maintain 500 minimum DET. I know a comparison to my current gear is unfair because ~crafted~ but, still: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2766552/

    I'm rocking 1000 crit alongside 650 sks, 660 acc, AND 586 det. Even with literally no melds, I'm at 526/906/582/588 det/crit/sks/acc. I don't know where your Midas tokens are going, but you need to start getting the 220 Midas gear, since every single 220 piece is strictly better than every single 210 piece by a country mile (aside from Gordian hands > Proto Midan hands and Gordian ears > Proto Midan ears, however the hands become better with 2 Crit IV melds. The ears are trash, tho.)


    590 sks is still optimal, in a sense, but also not really? Fights are significantly less draining on TP in the current meta. A5S is the exact opposite of TP issues, unless you use TP-consuming AoE on the pigs (which you shouldn't), and A6S is a series of fights, each of which 2m or less, with 1 Invigorate per fight. Just from normal, A8S looks like it won't be an issue for TP, either, assuming that phase in the middle of the last phase still happens - full 30-40s of running around letting TP regenerate and cooldowns reset so meh.

    A7S is the only one that *might* be an issue, since there's not much downtime in the normal mode.

    So, while 590 is still "optimal" - it's not NEARLY as detrimental to stack additional skill speed in this tier as it was in Gordias. The main issue with it, as Dervy mentioned, is de-syncing your BotD - but that requires a standing stretch of 3-4+ minutes, which is very rare if not non-existent in the current raiding landscape.
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    Last edited by JackFross; 03-11-2016 at 03:21 AM.