How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Estelle9lives]

I'm on dolls. For leg 3, I open with
HT>[BL+B4B]>ID>[IR]>Dis>[gsk+BotD]>CT>[PS]>4th>[Jump]>ID> [add spawns]
>[SSD doll]>Dis>CT>[gsk (doll+leg 4)]>4th>[b4b falls off]>HT>TT>VT>[life surge]>FT>

That's an interesting way to do it. Instead of unloading all your burst on the leg you split it with the doll, meaning it will go down way faster. I'll try to do it that way and see if it works better.

[whiskeybravo]

Somewhere in the thread it was mentioned that the maximum amount of gcds you should wait for a given buff before just doing it is some function of the amount it buffs and the base potency, though I can't for the life of me remember what it was.

Yea I recall a quote from Sunny about that, maybe this one: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3260578

[JackFross]

There it is. I looked for it but couldn't find it. Yeah, so B4B is a 30% buff and Jump's CD is 30s, so you could hold it up to 9s for B4B and see a dps increase over using it on cooldown. I suppose you could even look at PS-Jump being 60s and say "well, that would be 18s to wait" but this all feels intuitively wrong to me, so I dunno. Especially because, all things equal, your 4th PS+Jump will always be under your 3rd B4B, but if you hold each one for B4B... The difference would be like:

200x1.15x1.1x1.5x1.3x[1.3]x3 = 1924.065 potency from PS Jump

versus

200x1.15x1.1x1.5x1.3x( [1.3]x2 + 2 ) = 2269.41 potency from PS Jump

over the usage of 3 Blood for Bloods.

[whiskeybravo]

I tried to do some math, came up with 18 seconds as well which isn't practical. I think 9 seconds would be the practical limit since at 10 sec you'd theoretically be able to get another jump in (or thereabouts, anyways)

[TheKingSlayer]

On the 3rd leg for example, I do my full opener on the leg, stopping at Full Thrust (I think I could push the 4th too but I'm usually scared of a doll aggroing a healer and touching the Straf lol), then I tag it with Spinehatter and do HT > CT >4th > FT >4th (if applicable).

I have to do Jagd Dolls as well. For start of third leg I usually have a HT and ID prepped off of Manipulator. I can usually finish CT combo then life surge a FT, (dolls have just popped as Im using FT) Spine shatter to doll, use 4th, HT, Gierk, CT combo 4th, FT combo 4th, feed. You will start to find the optimal rotation to get the dolls down. I usually do one CT combo and one FT combo with 2 OGCDs (Legsweep & SS) and 1 ID to prep when I get back to leg.

Here is the math on the dolls. They do ~24k dmg at 100% health and 12k dmg at 50% health, 4.8k dmg at 20% health, 2.4k dmg at 10% health... you can see the math there right? Try to keep health under 15%

[Aiurily]

the math is that they do damage equal to their HP number remaining

[Arkane]

Hey Guys Arkane here,

Check out this video of A3 Savage (Solo Tank kill), It has a Dragoon off tanking the hands at the split.
Here's to hoping one day SE will let Dragoons also be a tank class if we want lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Z3iEIad_I

[RachaelMarie22]

Nice job guys

[CookieMonsta]

Inb4 "DRG too OP, high DPS and durability, pls Nerf"

[whiskeybravo]

Skull sunder xD I guess that's one way to do it, good job!