How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Ninjah2r]

soo... do we go for the relic lmfao?

I dont want to lose my 97 crit from thordan exp wep ;c

[JackFross]

I mean, there's this:
http://puu.sh/lYBBw/94e8f047b0.png

Compared to what I've been using (albeit with Morel Salad since it's way cheaper than Steamed Staff):
http://puu.sh/lYBDd/3916a042ba.png

I couldn't find a way to reduce the acc to 647-650ish without bumping skill speed over 700. That would do weird things to my rotation so N T Y

Like this:
http://puu.sh/lYBIN/46c7ad9fbe.png

Would be technically better, but the losses from the skill speed would for sure make it worse in the long run.

[Leananshee]

First two links are the same?

I guess it kinda comes down what was mentioned before - if you have the time and the gil to sink into the relic and have A3 helm, go for it. Otherwise i'd suggest sticking with the Thordan weapon until you get A4 done (considering the premise that you have downed the A3 jellybutt). Otherwise i think the Gordian weapon still wins bis.

Is it possible to get a share for your calculator Eve/Jack if you don't mind? I could a helping hand if I plan to do more diadem in the near future :3

[JackFross]

I fixed the links, sorry. x_x

And yeah, maybe in the future. I have a few things I'd wanna clean up before I'm comfortable sharing my messy-ass side project with everyone. I have it built in Excel with nice little drop-down menus. Made it with Excel 2007; I know it doesn't play well color-wise with older versions, and I'm not sure how it fares with newer ones.

But just like a few things are off and I haven't bothered fixing them since it doesn't bother *me* but I wouldn't wanna share it with stuff like THIS running rampant.

I can definitely try and clean it up and mega it or something. I'd just also wanna make a minor "how-to-use-this" message in it to make sure you don't break things, since adding gear requires a little finesse.


This is what the full current sheet looks like. Before sharing, I'll probably set up another sheet with it in duplicate to compare two sets side-by-side. (Also might wanna make it not say Cock Meat for Cockatrice Meatballs...)

[Leananshee]

Cool, lol at the screenshots! I used to use the old/original excel calculator docs from 2.0 times and then promptly tried to update it with the stat changes and adding SS into the mix but my general lack of excel knowledge, not having a proper copy on my home PC or at the time on my work Mac meant that I promptly broke it, failed and gave up on it lol

Oooh, I like the idea of comparing sets :3 I have a bad memory so without having to write it down or double check a thousand times I am hopeless when it comes to comparing different skill sets usually. Good luck if you go ahead with the added functionality.

[PheonixCain]

so i am assuming we Dragoons are all just gonna casually work on the relic and not rushing our asses like others for the Anima garbage

[JackFross]

Pretty much. I'm doing Vanu dailies and such and about 10 Alex runs daily. I can't be arsed to rush for a det/sks weapon when my group should down A4 within a month (assuming we raid much during the holidays) and the relic is a strict downgrade from either weapon from A4 and the set I found using it only beats out my current Thordan weapon set by ~7 strength. Not nearly enough for me to devote days of farming to getting it.

[raela]

I'm only on A2 and raid group is taking a month break for the holidays, plus they weren't too into learning Thordan.. so it would actually be an upgrade. I haven't had the heart to dedicate myself to PF learning Thordan. I plan on some daily roulettes/beast tribes/A1N runs, and hopefully will grab the relic in about ~2 weeks of light grinding.

[Zeviand]

Can anyone weigh in with decent possible Diadem alternatives

Check my lodestone! If it's on dragoon you can check out diadem alternatives. Pre food stats are:
1079 strength
635 acc
870 crit
414 det
605 skill speed

On a side note, how are people using thordan wep and still maintaining accuracy cap and 590 skill speed? I could never switch to Gordian spear because I'd lose too much ss and the alternate pieces with as have like zero accuracy

[JackFross]

I shared my gearset before. I can't be bothered grinding Diadem for marginal upgrades, so I only use the eso and gordian stuff.

Eso Hat, Chest, Belt, Legs, Wrist, Ring
Gordian Hands, Feet, Neck, Ear, Ring

Averages me to (Pipira Pira food for A3-4):
1075 strength
637 acc [655 food]
803 crit [840 food]
452 det
604 sks

Weight (food): 2069.90

My other set which works well with Steamed Staff for A4 is the same, just swap head and wrist:
1075 strength
651 acc
814 crit [854 food]
425 det
607 sks [623 food]

Weight (food): 2070.39
(I only don't use this because I don't have the gil to throw at Steamed Staff)

My friend uses the same set as I do (first one) with the Gordian Trident.

For A2, I swap just the neck and use Flint Caviar. Weight: 2073.66 / Acc: 623 / Sks: 634
For A1, I swap neck, wrist, and boots and use Flint Caviar. Weight: 2076.80 / Acc: 596 / Sks: 620