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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjah2r View Post
    But it demotivates me quickly lol, seeing all those monk/mch/whatever is in my party, end up with like 1000+ dps rofl.
    The Thordan trial is really finnicky. You can't get a high parse like the one Then has up or the one I have up without the rest of your dps (and mostly the tanks) doing sub-par dps. You enter the last phase sub-1000 pretty much no matter what. From then on, your dps steadily rises. The longer the fight goes, the higher you go up. If you really wanna see how you're doing, check your DPS when standing around for Ultimate End. It should be over 1000, or at least close to 1000. If you're considerably lower than that, an 1100 parse or even a 1000 parse isn't very likely if your MNK and MCH are both ending over 1k.

    Dying also has a pretty significant impact on dps, so try not to do that. Mechanics are more important - remember:
    Dropping Blood of the Dragon for a while doesn't impact your DPS nearly as bad as being dead for even a fraction of that duration.

    Also keep in mind that 8/10 top parses on the fight have an AST feeding them all of the cards to pad higher and place higher on the rankings. Party comp plays a big role.



    The breakpoint for 4 gsk per minute with the normal rotation puts your gcd below 2.15, which would cause a whole host of other issues. In order to get +1 gsk per minute, you need to get +1 full combo in that minute. Since BotD comes back just before a third hit of the combo, you need to inject 5 gcds. If you get 25 GCDs in 1 minute currently (which you should be), you need to extend that to 30. 25 in one minute is a 2.4 gcd, hence why we aim for 2.4 gcd. It makes things clean and simple. 30 in one minute is a 2.0 gcd, hence why we don't even consider trying to make this work. Granted, the leeway is such that you can probably pull it off with a 2.05-ish gcd and not screw it up, since you can pull off 3 gsk per minute with a 2.45 gcd (since you only *technically* need to get 22 gcds in 1 minute, which is easily doable, regardless of your sks, and therefore just need 27 gcds to pull it off, which is like a 2.22 gcd, which is *still* far too short to realistically reach).

    With single target Arrow or Enhance Arrow, you can pull off the 4gsk per minute *if the buff lasts one minute and is used exactly when your botd starts*. With Enhanced, the breathing room is a lot lighter and it's actually pretty easy to get the extra gsk in, though.


    And, as whiskey said, if you want to make it consistent, you need to drop Phleb from your rotation altogether and you'll consistently hit 4/min.
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    Ninjah2r's Avatar
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    Wing Z'ero
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    @Jack, thanks for replying. It makes sense what you said about 2.22 ish gcd needed to get 4 GK's in there. and it makes completely sense too that it would bring a whole lot of other problems like tp managing.

    Just gets me frustrated when my dps is not that high in that fight, I automatically blame my skill / my limited time I have to be better at that fight, because I always feel like underperforming/not doing my best when I look at the numbers.
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