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  1. #261
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    Deruflinga's Avatar
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    Neferupito Svara
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Well the stream I did tuesday I never got my 5 on double hands cause we sucked really bad from some reason, but I was able to be at 1560 going into adds with my wep. Prolly can get that to 1600 now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teXgROMLTMo (Quality will get better I just uploaded.)Two things to note.The first is when the hands split and I backflip, thats where I missed my 1st of the 5 on double hands, you can see me turn my camera but I just didnt think I could get it off, Thats why I only get 4 then 5th before they leave. Second is I have no clue why I used a CT combo at the end of the phase LOL, I normally just TTVTFT there, but oh well. Those 2 things along could have boosted me close to the 1600 mark.I'll get it next week!
    That was a nice video! Your dive crit at the beggining was impressive though ! You had your 210 on the video i pressume?

    Anyway could you tell me the names of the musics running on your video ? Many thanks !
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  2. #262
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    Hakmatic's Avatar
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    Hak Matic
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I did have a 210, uplift spice is the band.
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  3. #263
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    Kulit Kulitin
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    Adamantoise
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Hi all, finally got a group for A1S but still have 2 DPS gearing up so probably two weeks away from clearing. I have I 200 ring, neck, gloves, chest, and legs and wep. Looking at my options, I don't really see good options. Am I better off waiting?
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  4. #264
    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Head is used in most BiS sets, and the waist should have been one of your first purchases (since there doesn't exist a best in slot list that doesn't use the belt). Aside from that, try and figure out which set you're aiming toward and start building for it. The 200 boots and wrist are both nice accuracy pieces that can tide you over until drops, if the previous two I mentioned would drop you too low.
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  5. #265
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Hey Thendiel you should modify or note to do Geirskogul before Life Surge in your opener. I saw you do Geir first in your example video, so you know, but Geirskogul misses IR if you do Life Surge + Geirskogul in that order, as you wrote it in the OP.
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  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Hey Thendiel you should modify or note to do Geirskogul before Life Surge in your opener. I saw you do Geir first in your example video, so you know, but Geirskogul misses IR if you do Life Surge + Geirskogul in that order, as you wrote it in the OP.
    IR will be up for that first geir with skill speed around 600-650. i think getting LS off cd earlier is more important though, since at lower skill speeds (sub 600), if you get it off earlier, your 2nd LS can be used right as it comes off CD on FT, and at higher skill speeds (650~) with fey wind, you have a chance of risking GCD clip or holding LS past your 4th hit GCD when LS comes off CD

    video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI1KW1qSx9U (631 sksp)

    if you clip GCD at all of course that goes out the window.

    anyway another point of contention is, LSW+PS, or PS+LSW? i ended up doing PS+LSW because getting LSW off CD earlier did nothing for me; i still used it the 2nd time at the same point in my GCDs
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    Last edited by Aiurily; 10-05-2015 at 12:37 PM.

  7. #267
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Fair enough, that's actually pretty valuable info right there. I'm no DRG so if there are benefits to LS first or it not mattering either way then my comment should be ignored. Just an observation I had watching the opener on a DRG in relation to their buffs/what it buffed.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 10-05-2015 at 01:17 PM.

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  9. #268
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    Liquid Swordz
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Are the eso boots better than the Gordian ones if I can afford to lose the SS?
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  10. #269
    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    If you have the 210 Eso boots, probably. Otherwise, I don't think so.

    Strictly on stat weights from the OP, the Gordian boots are "better" but it's really less black-and-white than that.
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  11. #270
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    whiskeybravo's Avatar
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    Strictly on stat weights from the OP, the Gordian boots are "better" but it's really less black-and-white than that.
    I find the stat weights sorta misleading on this one.. I mean, if you don't need the extra skill speed, the only real additional damage is going to be from DoT ticks. At least Det affects every attack. I'm not sure exactly how 58 skill speed affects the gcd, if it's .015 that's still 66ish moves before you get an extra attack, or every 2.5 mins or so. So 4 or 5 extra attacks in most fights (if that, really, given disconnects), also how do you determine which attack is extra? Is it 4 full trusts, or 4 true thrusts? Makes a big difference.

    Thought experiment on "paper":

    4 x 150 = 600
    4 x 360 = 1440

    Let's average and say 1020 extra potency from the 58 skill speed

    39 Det..

    In 10 mins there are approx 250 attacks. So 39 det would have to increase each attack by approx 4.08 potency, just to make up for the additional hits granted by skill speed. Skill speed increases dot damage, but det will increase AA damage and dot damage..

    So.. IDK how all that balances out, but I don't see 39 det contributing 4 potency per attack. So maybe the weights are right on.. Or I should just give up on math >.<

    Using skill speed formula in OP using boots to go from 650 skill speed to 708 reduces gcd from 2.39 to 2.37.. So that just messed everything up.. But I don't feel like erasing my hard (even if incorrect) work lol
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