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    realistically are the situations where you drop uptime for mechanics/aoe dodging and end up risking geir salvaged by high skill speed or not

    because even at 2.41 (580-590 or so) optimal 3 geir/min is possible, if just a bit tight. so yes disconnecting for an aoe or a mechanic will make you lose 3 lasers if its at a bad timing; but would this not be the same at 650+ sksp as well? that 0.02s difference spread over a minute i don't feel is enough to make a difference. with 25 skills over a minute, that's 0.50s extra; is that really enough to salvage 3 geir/minute when you have to dodge an aoe or do a mechanic (or get done by a mechanic, cough quarantine/ferrofluid cough). even then it's probably closer to 0.38-0.40s extra time, since typically the last 4-5 GCDs before BoTD refresh, you aren't worrying about the timer anymore anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    realistically are the situations where you drop uptime for mechanics/aoe dodging and end up risking geir salvaged by high skill speed or not

    because even at 2.41 (580-590 or so) optimal 3 geir/min is possible, if just a bit tight. so yes disconnecting for an aoe or a mechanic will make you lose 3 lasers if its at a bad timing; but would this not be the same at 650+ sksp as well? that 0.02s difference spread over a minute i don't feel is enough to make a difference. with 25 skills over a minute, that's 0.50s extra; is that really enough to salvage 3 geir/minute when you have to dodge an aoe or do a mechanic (or get done by a mechanic, cough quarantine/ferrofluid cough). even then it's probably closer to 0.38-0.40s extra time, since typically the last 4-5 GCDs before BoTD refresh, you aren't worrying about the timer anymore anyway
    I really can't speak for DRG here, but as BLM every .01 can really add up since there are frequently times when I refresh Enochian at a time where Enochian has technically fallen off as my B4 is landing. It doesn't seem like it should matter but well, it really does in practice.

    Again, can't really speak for Geirskogul mechanics though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    realistically are the situations where you drop uptime for mechanics/aoe dodging and end up risking geir salvaged by high skill speed or not
    To clarify, Thendiel's talking about how you lose a Geirskogul within that minute-long window if your GCDs overtake the BotD cooldown. Then there will be times you have 3 Geirskoguls from 5 BotD extensions and times you have 3 Geirskoguls from 6 BotD extensions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    snip
    Here's a quick, dirty, not completely accurate breakdown.
    http://puu.sh/kdDsW/4e03e8c747.png

    What's important to note is the time remaining in the highlighted portion, where GSK 3 MUST go in order to maintain 3 per minute. If you do it before that other 4th hit, you lose BotD and miss a combo hit, suffering a loss.

    "It's only 0.5 seconds!" That's a LOT of bonus time. That allows you to delay your gcds up to 0.5 seconds longer aggregated over 1 minute and still hit 3. It doesn't sound like a lot, but it really does matter. A second is a lot longer than people give it credit for. It's a grace period. Yes, it's possible to be just fine at 2.41 gcd, but at 2.4 and even 2.39 you just have more room for error. That's all. It could be the difference between maintaining botd and losing it, which is where it really matters more than the gsk timings.
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