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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Are you sure about this o.0

    It doesn't agree with Dervy's original analysis from the OP. Maybe you're calculating in some crit% that he didn't originally?
    It would only be true for the opener. The difference between B and C is only one thing - you're trading the Impulse Drive and the second Heavy Thrust between the two skills. In B, ID gets B4B while HT gets BL. In C, it's the other way around. Since B4B is a bigger buff than BL, it would make sense that moving B4B to the stronger of the two hits (not including B4B/BL boosts) would be better than doing it vice versa. While it LOOKS like that initial ID is stronger than the second HT, it's not completely true that it is.

    In the opener, that initial ID is:
    180 x 1.15 = 207
    Since it's up after HT, but before Dis hits.

    Whereas the second HT is:
    170 x 1.15 x 1.1 = 215.05
    Since it gets both HT and the Dis buffs.


    Though, this causes a point of confusion for me, since all of this stacked together should mean (based on what I'm seeing here) that this should be actually better than what's touted as the best opener:

    HT>[IR>BL]>ID>[BotD>B4B]>Dis>[Pot]>CT>[Leg+PS]>4th>[Jump]>P>[DFD]>TT>[SSD]>VT>[gsk+Life]>FT>4th>HT

    By approximately 9 potency (less than 1 pot per gcd). That's assuming IR falls off just before Vorpal Thrust, but catches the SSD. I don't like imagining a world where this might have been overlooked until now, and this DOES shift your B4B one gcd later than usual, which delays it going forward by that 1 gcd as well, but there's enough time in most every fight where you wanna hold B4B for 1-2 gcds for mechanics that this shouldn't make a realistic difference in the long run.
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    Last edited by JackFross; 01-20-2016 at 09:01 AM.