How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[JackFross]

I think fflogs would be good enough. The duration of fight plays a part in your final dps, because the longer the fight goes, the higher you can get, but you should be entering final phase around 940-970 (or higher if you have NIN/AST/MCH) and going up from there. If you're starting *significantly* lower than that, your issues are probably in earlier phases. If your dps drops from where you enter to where you end, you're messing up in final phase execution. The only times in final phase that you should be off the boss for longer than half a gcd:

1. Towers + Dragon Rage
2. Lightning Storm, if you get picked for tether or dive
3. Fire & Ice - you always wanna run off for this

[Ninjah2r]

holy hell that's a lot of info <3 tyvm!

My opener seems off because I comepletely skipp out phleb out of my rotation, so I can get another GK in. I asked that a few months earlier and from what I gathered at that time, I could just skip out plheb so I can fit another GK in at the start of the fight.

About prepopping, that's my own stupid fault, I should know better lol during the Ser A and Ser J phase. a jump under b4b and SSD as the gapcloser instead of DFD which I used instead.

Also, I noticed that I can get BL in during this phase, and can use b4b/ir/blood during meteors so I'll try that too next time I go in. I'll ofcourse get back to you and have a fflogs link ready so you can see how I did

so that's the key things I"ll try to improve on for thordan ex.

[Ninjah2r]

wanted to make 1 post but since se is against more than 1000 characters. here is 2/2

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what about a1s XD? http://www.fflogs.com/reports/6qBZ81...pe=damage-done

note: I'll try cleaving the first adds with GK/DFD and hope that they dont die where melee is standing lol. Also, I'll try to speedkill the adds just like in Thendiel's vid but never done that before, so I'll have to practice that.

I'm doing good on faust tho lmao..

[Nominous]

Wait, so people are actually running SKS now? Was it proven to be better at some point or something?

[MiniTyra]

No. I just prefer it because it "feels" better during raids and cooldown alignment, personally, is better.

[JackFross]

You can use BotD again at the end of phase 1 in Thordan and still have it back for the Knights. In this way, you get 4 gsk in the opening phase while maintaining the higher dps brought by using Phlebotomize. C: Dropping Phleb in single-target is actually an overall dps loss, even with the gain of +1 gsk.

I'm not a super good authority on A1S. I know the fight pretty well, but I do a lot of wonky things that aren't exactly optimal.

There is something to be said for holding DFD for the first add spawn, rather than using it in the opener (I always forget to...). You'll get 3 hits of DFD in phase 1, 1 hit in Phase 2, 1 hit in Phase 3. If you use it in the opener, you get 2 hits in Phase 1, 1 hit in Phase 2, 1 hit in Phase 3. It comes down to B4B overlap, and I'm not totally qualified to calculate that. The first DFD in p1 gets B4B (and crit buffs) while the second one gets to hit an Alarum and the Oppressor which would be ~4.35-4.4x DFD. Holding it for the first Alarums is ~4.14-4.25x, since they have a ~25-30% buff on damage done to them. So if you're using it on Alarum+Opp for the second shot, it's better to use it on cooldown. And if you only get 1/2 of the Alarums from the first DFD (since you have to wait for the SMN or SCH to pick them up first), you lose a significant amount of dps, since then you have exactly what the second DFD is in the first case, just without the additional B4B one at the start.

But uh, imo, there's two ways to handle Alarums.
In this kill, I handled them in way 1:
1. Pick up the add with ID the first time into Dis>CT on the Opp, before returning to finish the Alarum off.
--- Second one comes up just after FT, so pick it up with 4th>HT>ID>gsk>[Dis+CT on Opp]>back to Alarum to finish.
2. Grab the Alarum and murder it before the lasers come out with a series of quick hits incorporating off-gcd skills. Remember it has a ~1.3x bonus from damage on it, so saving a Jump or SSD from the opener to hit the Alarum isn't a significant loss of dps, since you'll still get the same amount in the ~90s phase.

Those are the only real tips I have re: A1S, since I myself am not doing it optimally, and I don't really have any answers on how to do it better. It's hard, because most good players have done 0-jump kills, now, and those aren't really super helpful in terms of how to effectively do the fight, since they're all bumped up by Astrologians and short kill times, so it's hard to reason out which one did it the best compared to which one just got the luckiest crits.

[Hakmatic]

Umm.. Go Broncos !!!!

[CookieMonsta]

Umm.. Go Broncos !!!!

Yo Hak, go check out the DRG AoE thread, you will chortle XD

[Ninjah2r]

@JackFross, alright thanks I'll try that again when I get back in ^_^

[Ash_Smokespear]

Just wanted to thank everyone again for all the interesting input on A3S the past few pages, didn't realise my question about BL and other cooldown timing would spawn this amount of back and forth we finally got our clear last night, better late than never! I did absolutely horrible, completely flubbing my rotation at various stages but dead is dead \o/