How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Arkane]

Hey Guys Arkane here,

Check out this video of A3 Savage (Solo Tank kill), It has a Dragoon off tanking the hands at the split.
Here's to hoping one day SE will let Dragoons also be a tank class if we want lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Z3iEIad_I

[RachaelMarie22]

Nice job guys

[CookieMonsta]

Inb4 "DRG too OP, high DPS and durability, pls Nerf"

[whiskeybravo]

Skull sunder xD I guess that's one way to do it, good job!

[JackFross]

I would die happy if we got a lancer-based tank job. Unfortunately, I don't think the game is gonna do any more dual jobs off the base classes, so likely won't happen. :c

Also, why Skull Sunder? It's only 350 potency of enmity (not including buffs) whereas the normal rotation at 2.4s gcd (including HT+Dis but not including any other buffs or off-gcd skills) is ~348 potency per gcd. Was there some reason you ended up needing Skull Sunder there in testing? o:

[Ninjah2r]

quick question: is the relic better than the i205 thordan wep? if yes please explain kinda torn in between those

and I never get high dps in dungeons on mob pulls, because doing the RoT/DS combo rapes my tp, am I doing anything wrong? with high dps I mean like, 900-950 overall.

[Sekundessounet]

Look at the stats weight part of the first post. Basically, Thordan wep give you CRIT + DET, and Ronghomiant gives you DET + Skill Speed. You just don't want to lose all that CRIT. The relic is bad :/

On mob pulls usually I do my AoE skills like : Heavy Thrust --> Blood for Blood+Battle Litany --> Ring of Thorns --> Internal Release+blood of the dragon --> Doom Spike --> Power Surge --> Doom Spike --> Jump --> Doom Spike --> Spineshatterdive --> Doom Spike --> Geirskogul --> Doom Spike --> Dragonfire Dive.

Then, at the moment you use Invigorate, I just do single target DPS.

[Ninjah2r]

Look at the stats weight part of the first post. Basically, Thordan wep give you CRIT + DET, and Ronghomiant gives you DET + Skill Speed. You just don't want to lose all that CRIT. The relic is bad :/

On mob pulls usually I do my AoE skills like : Heavy Thrust --> Blood for Blood+Battle Litany --> Ring of Thorns --> Internal Release+blood of the dragon --> Doom Spike --> Power Surge --> Doom Spike --> Jump --> Doom Spike --> Spineshatterdive --> Doom Spike --> Geirskogul --> Doom Spike --> Dragonfire Dive.

Then, at the moment you use Invigorate, I just do single target DPS.

alright thankss

[JackFross]

I wouldn't necessarily call the anima "bad" outright. It definitely comes down to personal preference. The thing packs 102 skill speed - there's literally no way to drop that stat below ~640 without significant luck in Diadem (assuming you wish to maintain accuracy to use it in A4 Savage). In my minor tinkering (because I personally don't intend to get the relic before 3.25, since I wouldn't use it), the best set I could scrape together using it was only ~7 points of stat weight higher than my current set using the Thordan spear, including the +1 weapon damage.

It'll likely end up looking something like the DRK weapons. The i200 Deathbringer Awoken is approximately even with the i205 Thordan sword, due to an impressive stat spread on the former. In testing, my dps was nearly indistinguishable (did it through multiple Thordan clears using both swords in the same party). That is what I assume you'll encounter in practical tests comparing Rhongomiant to the Halberd of the Heavens. They'll end up parsing essentially equivalently in any practical setting, so it'll mostly come down to your own personal tastes regarding the Skill Speed threshold.


And to add on to the AoE response, something important to note is you need to adjust your AoE to the size of the group and the strength of your partner DPS in dungeon runs. Smaller pulls benefit quite a lot from using normal ST rotation (minus Phlebotomize) and 4 gsk per minute. It sustains far longer and ends up pumping out relatively equivalent dps. Even in larger pulls, this approach can be beneficial to utilize if your partner dps is NOT a summoner cresting 2.4k per pull. The Doom Spike spam works REALLY WELL if the pull lasts less time than it takes for your TP to bottom out (prime example: first pull after the second boss in Fractal Continuum, you can spike 2.5k-3k when the pull ends if you pop b4b and DS spam with HT to open).

In extended encounters, after your TP bottoms out, you'll be sorely lacking in AoE (especially if you use BotD>gsk during your aoe, like you should) due to simply spreading CT combos as your primary dps, so your overall for the encounter will drop off rapidly. Conversely, if you focus on ST rotation with BotD flowing, spreading CT while churning out 4 gsk/minute, you'll find your dps far more consistently over 1.2-1.4k even without B4B active for the pull.