How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[whiskeybravo]

I went and gave it a look. All of the dragoons (possibly other classes) with dates around Nov 10-11 area have the same issue with higher-than-normal dot ticks, resulting in padded parses. Must have been during the time ACT was messed up with dot recording. Not sure why fflogs is allowing them to be added now, though.

I thought this was interesting (back on 11/13): https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...=1#post6568616

There's some issue with the ACT plugin regarding DoT/HoT, so the ranking for 3.1 has been suspended until it gets resolved.

[Orlandeu]

Could be a difference in skill speed.

[JackFross]

Been messing around with that to see if that would have enough of an impact, and it absolutely does not. My friend mucked with their stats to get 850-ish skill speed and saw an average of +5-10 over the normal 600-ish skill speed that the two of us normally use. There's absolutely no way they're running enough to boost their dot potency by 40%.

[Aquaslash]

Sorry to derail for basic nonsense, but is there an efficient way of doing aoe damage on big pulls? Spamming HT/RoT seems a bit wasteful, yet single targeting everything and hoping for meaty crits on WT/FaC/GK/DfD seems to be a slow burn.

[JackFross]

On the biggest pulls, I get the best results out of something like:
HT>[IR+B4B]>RoT>[DFD]>DS spam

If your other DPS is good, I'll also use BotD and a Geirskogul during the b4b/ir and BL if you wanna pop it.

Usually I'll stop at around 500 TP after using 1 invig and then cycle into HT>CT>CT combos, no phleb, using ~4 gsk per minute to clear whatever's left.

Haven't run the numbers, but it depends how your other DPS is. If they're good, DS spam is the way to go. If they're not, using HT>CT>CT combos is the way to go, because TP will last longer and your dps won't really be too much different in an extended pull, even compared to the insane burst from DS spam.

[JackFross]

Yeah I remembered that happening, but the uploader blocked me from adding any parses from that period when I initially tried. It's kinda weird that they're just letting them up now.

[PogueX]

what does it mean when people say that the DRG has good "burst damage" got sick of playing PLD so i am leveling DRG now. D

[Greyfrost]

what does it mean when people say that the DRG has good "burst damage" got sick of playing PLD so i am leveling DRG now. D

Our DPS burst is within the first 2 minute range, then it stay low or so for the next minute, then it bursts again. Like that.

[whiskeybravo]

I have 700+ skill speed and the only way to really get 4 per min is to drop Phleb. Usually just do this in dungeons, like Jack was saying, HT-IDC4-IDC4 multidotting.

Unless there's some combination of sch/ast buffs to push way over the normal GCD, but that's not going to be sustainable.

[whiskeybravo]

It's been a long time since I've had to do algebra xD but I came up with 1553 skill speed as a number to reach 2.05 gcd

Reverse engineered Dervy's GCD formula

SS = (((GCD-2.50256)/-.01)*26.5)+354

Seems to get close enough on the proof check