How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[ThatOneBat]

Hello. ^^ I'm a new lvl60 Drg and I've been wondering: If there's two or more Drgs in a party what is the order for Battle Litany usage?

[TenZer0]

Hello. ^^ I'm a new lvl60 Drg and I've been wondering: If there's two or more Drgs in a party what is the order for Battle Litany usage?

Just ask them if you mind going first, or vice versa. I usually ask to go first since I open with it :P

[Hawkesm]

Anyone know what defensive cooldown to use and when to use for Thordan ex?

[JackFross]

Hello. ^^ I'm a new lvl60 Drg and I've been wondering: If there's two or more Drgs in a party what is the order for Battle Litany usage?

There's no real rule for it. Just either call first Litany or let them take it. Whoever uses it second should just pop it after the first one wears off to get ~40s of uninterrupted +15% crit rate.

Anyone know what defensive cooldown to use and when to use for Thordan ex?

There's no real uses for defensive CDs in Thordan for Dragoon. Most damage is AoE and the targeted stuff is weak enough to not kill you with sufficient heals. A few good spots I've noticed, though:
1. Initial Tether/Ice spread, pop Keen Flurry before you run out; if you have a tether, spin to face mid after getting to the edge. You *CAN* parry the hit.
2. Final phase Lightning Storm rotation: Pop Second Wind after Lightning Storm hits you - it's a solid +2000 health, which is very useful if you have anything that's not Dragon's Rage. Use Keen Flurry if you have the tether and face mid once you're in position. It might work on the dragoon dive, too, but I've not personally ever tested it. I *have* parried a tether charge, though.
3. Bloodbath after the fire&ice split can be the difference between life and death if some party members screw up the mechanic.

That's about it. I also tend to use Bloodbath and Second Wind if Zephirin is a thing to deal with, because there's a LOT of aoe damage there and it never hurts to have an extra bit of health.

I've got no...tool that must not be named cause of being a PS4 player, but is there a point when I know that I've legitimately "got gud"?

Also how do you guys go about keeping a constant supply of pots and food? All the HQ stuff just annihilates my eternally limited funds

Honestly, on PS4, there's no real way to know. If you follow all the tips in the guide, you're probably doing more than good enough, though. If you really need to know, have someone parse you and upload to fflogs, so you can compare yourself against others.

I only use food and potions for *progression* raiding - currently A3S. I don't use pots, like, ever, but you can buy super cheap Mega-Potions of Strength in the markets in Ishgard, which are shitty as hell, but good enough if you want a cheap alternative.

And don't believe the Drac Pot hype - HQ X-Pots are the same benefit as NQ Drac Pots for a fraction of the cost. I don't use HQ Drac Pots because too expensive. I also use Flint Caviar since it's way cheaper than Pipira Pira and gives like 4 less Crit, which isn't gonna make or break your dps.

[Aquaslash]

I've got no...tool that must not be named cause of being a PS4 player, but is there a point when I know that I've legitimately "got gud"?

Also how do you guys go about keeping a constant supply of pots and food? All the HQ stuff just annihilates my eternally limited funds

[raela]

I've got no...tool that must not be named cause of being a PS4 player, but is there a point when I know that I've legitimately "got gud"?

Also how do you guys go about keeping a constant supply of pots and food? All the HQ stuff just annihilates my eternally limited funds

I have my crafters all at 60 with HQ white 60 sets, no melds. Mats are cheap as dirt for flint caviar/xpots of strength, and crafting rotation for HQ is stupid easy. Takes maybe 10 minutes to make 2 weeks worth of pots/food.

[Aquaslash]

I have my crafters all at 60 with HQ white 60 sets, no melds. Mats are cheap as dirt for flint caviar/xpots of strength, and crafting rotation for HQ is stupid easy. Takes maybe 10 minutes to make 2 weeks worth of pots/food.

I've barely begun to even touch crafting, but I kinda figured it would come to this

[JackFross]

I know I'm comparing a wipe to a clear, but...

http://www.fflogs.com/reports/compar...18&view=events

I'm honestly really confused by this. Hak's dots are an average of ~100 higher than mine throughout the entire duration of this parse. We have similar buff usage and everything, yet no matter where I look, Hak's beating me by this same margin in the dot ticks. I'm sure I'm failing to optimize elsewhere, but this is kind of silly? My own testing is showing numbers in line with what my parse shows. Is ACT really this bad at reading dots? Do Hak's dots really do that much more than mine? I'll accept whatever answer, I just am really confused by this.

[PhalanxField]

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Looks more like data-collection differences to me. I'm not sure what the (T:X, C:Y%) business is (ticks and crits? can't be), but I would guess you're using Simulated DoTs and he's not, which is causing strange variations.

[JackFross]

Looks more like data-collection differences to me. I'm not sure what the (T:X, C:Y%) business is (ticks and crits? can't be), but I would guess you're using Simulated DoTs and he's not, which is causing strange variations.

I went and gave it a look. All of the dragoons (possibly other classes) with dates around Nov 10-11 area have the same issue with higher-than-normal dot ticks, resulting in padded parses. Must have been during the time ACT was messed up with dot recording. Not sure why fflogs is allowing them to be added now, though.