How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Bloodborn8]

In add phase, I pretty much just spam TTT4, refreshing HT as necessary. Don't use Spineshatter to DPS, use it in case a mob is far away from you as a transportation skill.

[Hakmatic]

That's what I've been doing too, might follow Hak's lead tonight and try without. Our issue has been getting all the small adds down before the last wave of pistons spawn. We've only got it once and subsequently died to cascade. So that was fun xD

Typically the monk and I handle Pistons while MCH and SMN handle small ones. Then we run around and help with gears in between piston waves. Not sure if this is ideal or not, any suggestions for changing that up or keep it as is?

They just dont live long enough in my group, so no point for me to use any dots.

[SunnyHirose]

I mostly don't use cooldowns if they won't be back up for the last phase. AFAICT only pre-tornado DPS, the last four adds, and final phase DPS will end the fight sooner.

I do use a lot of Chaos Thrust combos but this is a relic from progression and the ranged are probably more than capable of finishing things off cleanly now.

[Sleigh]

I mostly don't use cooldowns if they won't be back up for the last phase. AFAICT only pre-tornado DPS, the last four adds, and final phase DPS will end the fight sooner.

I do use a lot of Chaos Thrust combos but this is a relic from progression and the ranged are probably more than capable of finishing things off cleanly now.

Last 4 adds of tornado phase don't do anything for clear time. Source: sitting there every week for an annoying amount of time waiting for Pepsiman to come back to the dismay of all of our DPS/combos/stacks. Pepsiman comes back when he wants to come back.

It's true what you say, don't use CDs that won't otherwise be back in time for Pepsiman in that phase (this applies to the party for the most part) unless you're looking to jack up your numbers. If you're failing it's because the Heavies/stuns aren't flowing properly or people die/are slacking.

[SunnyHirose]

In that case, we're just bad \o/

Even if the last four adds did anything you wouldn't want to use significant CDs because of all the downtime while the guy prepares to go targetable (silly bosses, that's how players beat them!).

[alpha2415]

U guys realize those bis have way too much acc you only need 620 acc for a4s..

[Aiurily]

U guys realize those bis have way too much acc you only need 620 acc for a4s..

stacking in front for fracture
jagd dolls
quarantine dolls sometime

[alpha2415]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/ROG0 this would be ideal bis for a4s

[SunnyHirose]

No way, it's 700 accuracy. It is what it says it is: a plan to not buy non-BiS pieces. This is a practice I would discourage beginning raiders from adopting. If you already have the 3 months of esoterics gear, and miraculous luck with drops, okay fine. Realistically, you should optimize around what gear you have or will get soon in order to take down the fight you're on.

[JackFross]

No way, it's 700 accuracy. It is what it says it is: a plan to not buy non-BiS pieces. This is a practice I would discourage beginning raiders from adopting. If you already have the 3 months of esoterics gear, and miraculous luck with drops, okay fine. Realistically, you should optimize around what gear you have or will get soon in order to take down the fight you're on.

Ah, yeah, I agree with you. I had so many people giving me shit for buying the Eso wrist before the chest (which I just bought this week) because any sooner and it would have given me an immense surplus of accuracy at the cost of a reasonably large sum of skill speed (and points of crit) since I had the 190 chest. Even now, buying it forced me to "downgrade" from eso wrist to alex wrist just to maintain a skill speed that I'm comfortable with, until next week, when I can round out my set with the head.

But yeah, you shouldn't build toward "best in slot" just because it's "best in slot" when you're months away from even having a chance at getting certain pieces (twines, mostly) from it.

I was just confused as to why those sets contained pieces dropped on the floors they were designed for. I guess it's like "This is what you should aim for for the next floor" which seems silly to me. And the whole "avoid buying non-bis pieces" jargon would be believable if the A3S set didn't have (upgraded) eso wrist+neck, of which only the neck survives to BiS.

What kinda group is gonna feed you four coats when you only need 3 for your bis and you have 7 other people in the group who all need at least 1 each as well?