How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Hakmatic]

That's what I've been doing too, might follow Hak's lead tonight and try without. Our issue has been getting all the small adds down before the last wave of pistons spawn. We've only got it once and subsequently died to cascade. So that was fun xD

Typically the monk and I handle Pistons while MCH and SMN handle small ones. Then we run around and help with gears in between piston waves. Not sure if this is ideal or not, any suggestions for changing that up or keep it as is?

They just dont live long enough in my group, so no point for me to use any dots.

[alpha2415]

U guys realize those bis have way too much acc you only need 620 acc for a4s..

[alpha2415]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/ROG0 this would be ideal bis for a4s

[Aiurily]

U guys realize those bis have way too much acc you only need 620 acc for a4s..

stacking in front for fracture
jagd dolls
quarantine dolls sometime

[JackFross]

For beginning raiders, a good progression of sets that doesn't waste items by only buying things that will be kept to the final BIS set would be this:

http://pastebin.com/PxAx51VT

This is a little late, but I'm just looking at this now. Shouldn't a set designed to progress on a fight NOT use items obtained from that fight? It's not very useful to have a set designed for A3S that requires a bare minimum of 3 clears of it before you can even use it. x:

[Bloodborn8]

This is a little late, but I'm just looking at this now. Shouldn't a set designed to progress on a fight NOT use items obtained from that fight? It's not very useful to have a set designed for A3S that requires a bare minimum of 3 clears of it before you can even use it. x:

I took it to mean "this is the best set I can come up with if you've cleared this floor."

[Greyfrost]

I took it to mean "this is the best set I can come up with if you've cleared this floor."

This is the best set to farm this floor.

[SunnyHirose]

No way, it's 700 accuracy. It is what it says it is: a plan to not buy non-BiS pieces. This is a practice I would discourage beginning raiders from adopting. If you already have the 3 months of esoterics gear, and miraculous luck with drops, okay fine. Realistically, you should optimize around what gear you have or will get soon in order to take down the fight you're on.

[JackFross]

No way, it's 700 accuracy. It is what it says it is: a plan to not buy non-BiS pieces. This is a practice I would discourage beginning raiders from adopting. If you already have the 3 months of esoterics gear, and miraculous luck with drops, okay fine. Realistically, you should optimize around what gear you have or will get soon in order to take down the fight you're on.

Ah, yeah, I agree with you. I had so many people giving me shit for buying the Eso wrist before the chest (which I just bought this week) because any sooner and it would have given me an immense surplus of accuracy at the cost of a reasonably large sum of skill speed (and points of crit) since I had the 190 chest. Even now, buying it forced me to "downgrade" from eso wrist to alex wrist just to maintain a skill speed that I'm comfortable with, until next week, when I can round out my set with the head.

But yeah, you shouldn't build toward "best in slot" just because it's "best in slot" when you're months away from even having a chance at getting certain pieces (twines, mostly) from it.

I was just confused as to why those sets contained pieces dropped on the floors they were designed for. I guess it's like "This is what you should aim for for the next floor" which seems silly to me. And the whole "avoid buying non-bis pieces" jargon would be believable if the A3S set didn't have (upgraded) eso wrist+neck, of which only the neck survives to BiS.

What kinda group is gonna feed you four coats when you only need 3 for your bis and you have 7 other people in the group who all need at least 1 each as well?

[ReliaWylder]

Yeah, my terminology was bad - it meant "set with all pieces available from this floor". Additionally, I wrote that with people who only pug in mind; 4 gobcoats isn't really a problem when you don't have a group to share with and you're just rolling on everything anyway. If you're looking to optimize for a particular floor or are in a static then it's not really a good set to follow (unless you're comfortable with running un-optimized for A3S and have free reign to roll on anything). :P

I edited that post to reflect that.