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    ActionPetlura's Avatar
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    Action Petlura
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I poked around the last thread (RIP Dervy) and I didn't see this, so I apologize if it was already asked, but I'm not sure enough people are a high enough PVP rank for it to be a popular question anyway. I'm at i194 currently practicing AS2. I ended up getting the i210 earring (everything else is i190), and my right side is all i200 aside from head and feet.

    Long story short: is the PVP i180 ring worthwhile? Obviously, accuracy isn't a problem for us in the earlier AS floors. +36 STR, +30 Det, +22 Crit. Getting the other i200 ring is obviously something I could do, but I feel like with the PVP ring, it's not a priority. Am I wrong?
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ActionPetlura View Post
    is the PVP i180 ring worthwhile? Obviously, accuracy isn't a problem for us in the earlier AS floors. +36 STR, +30 Det, +22 Crit. Getting the other i200 ring is obviously something I could do, but I feel like with the PVP ring, it's not a priority. Am I wrong?
    The 200 Esoterics ring is a solid +3.5 strength over the PvP i180 ring. Is it a priority? Not particularly. Is it necessary in the long run? Absolutely. It will never be wasted Eso.
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    Yunnae's Avatar
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    Yunaae Matata
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Hello, I have a dragoon that is in my static and we don't really know why he is struggling in terms of DPS in A5S and in general.

    I know absolutely nothing about how to DRG (i main ninja) and I know the forum community helps a lot in these situations

    Here is a parse of a try we've done : http://www.fflogs.com/reports/Tb42tJ...pe=damage-done

    Could you please tell me what he could improve ? And how ?

    Thanks a lot for your help and have a great day !
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Recently reactivated my sub after a bit of a hiatus. Turns out I still have my rotation in muscle memory, but I want to make sure I do the tweaks that need to be done in order to optimize things, and so I have a question about the opener. I don't use pots, so I usually do something like this:

    H -> [BL+BFB] -> ID -> [IR+PS] -> DI -> [BOTD+LEGS] -> CT -> [GK+JUMP] -> 4TH -> [SSD] -> P -> [DFD] -> TT -> VT -> [LIFES] -> FT -> 4TH -> Repeat

    But I see in the OP that the advanced opener puts BotD before Disembowel, which strikes me as odd. Doesn't that mean you lose a full GCD off your BotD timer?
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    Last edited by seekified; 05-25-2016 at 10:29 PM.

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    Damelia Lhea
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    Recently reactivated my sub after a bit of a hiatus. Turns out I still have my rotation in muscle memory, but I want to make sure I do the tweaks that need to be done in order to optimize things, and so I have a question about the opener. I don't use pots, so I usually do something like this:

    H -> [BL+BFB] -> ID -> [IR+PS] -> DI -> [BOTD+LEGS] -> CT -> [GK+JUMP] -> 4TH -> [SSD] -> P -> [DFD] -> TT -> VT -> [LIFES] -> FT -> 4TH -> Repeat

    But I see in the OP that the advanced opener puts BotD before Disembowel, which strikes me as odd. Doesn't that mean you lose a full GCD off your BotD timer?
    You're clipping after your Chaos Thrust. Jumps should always be used on their own, else you will clip the next GCD.

    You're also (potentially) missing Disembowel bonus on your Leg Sweep, but that's a minor inefficiency.
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    Fionna Beoulve
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I was wondering how do trick attack and hypercharge interact when used together? How much does trick attack add to dps these days? I have not kept up with the smaller details of all this in a long time, choosing not to stress anything but my interest is growing again. Thank you for your time
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    Last edited by KidSerge; 05-26-2016 at 02:24 PM.

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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    Recently reactivated my sub after a bit of a hiatus.
    Lemme restate a thing!

    The optimal opener without a potion as far as I have been able to discern and test is:

    H>[delay>BL]>ID>[IR>B4B]>Dis>[BotD]>CT>[LegS>PS]>4th>[Jump]>P>[DFD]>TT>[SSD]>VT>[gsk>LifeS]>FT>4th

    Tips and tricks:
    Be sure to delay BL, B4B, IR when used alone in a single spin. It'll net you +1 GCD under the buff.
    Geirskogul is a fluid cooldown - even though it has a 10s timer, it can always be delayed to be the last one. You just need 3 per 60s - you're not using it on cooldown ever!
    BotD is used BEFORE Disembowel in the opener because you wanna get the potion just before CT. It'll last for CT up through the crit Full Thrust. It also helps ease re-casts of BotD later down the road.
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    Silver Dragonsong
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    confused about rotation

    HOw should my action key bar look? i read all this and it dont make sense to me , i'd just like to see what my action bar should look like
    thank you
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    Player Aquaslash's Avatar
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    Zinnia Higana
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by wesley69 View Post
    HOw should my action key bar look? i read all this and it dont make sense to me , i'd just like to see what my action bar should look like
    thank you
    There is no definitive answer for this. You have to do what works for you.

    I play on PS4 and use the crossbar. I have GCDs on the right side, OGCDs on the left, and jumps on the second bar. You want your rotation, especially your opener to be muscle memory, so I'd recommend experimenting with the hotbara until you get something that feels natural
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