How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Jonnycbad]

Susceptibility to mechanics (jobs affected more by mechanics deal slightly more solo damage, and vice versa

DRG is arguably the job affected -most- by mechanics but we are one of the weakest DPS, even accounting for our support abilities like Dragon Sight, Battle Litany, and Disembowel. No other job has a fully depreciating resource. SCH and SMN lose Gauge but keep Aetherflow stacks, MCH depreciated best, but they keep ammo, MNK depreciated Greased Lightning but they keep Chakras. We lose both BoTD and Dragon Eyes

[SunnyHirose]

Anyone care to elaborate on how the JP Dragoons are feeling? I've heard they dislike it equally but I figured someone might be able to go in depth. I hope they're more vocal than we are... maybe something will actually be done then

They've been vocal since launch. I could never summarize that much text in a reasonable time.

The gist of the first six reactions to the most recent devpost was "hm, I don't recall signing up for the buffer role", and that was 14 pages back.

[Leananshee]

We lose both BoTD and Dragon Eyes

This is my biggest gripe with it...it takes me long enough to build up the eyes in the first place...only to hit a mechanic (and there's plenty of them) where its a race against the clock, even at the full 30sec with the extra 15sec if you BotD ready to repop...with the 7sec or so it takes to get to WT/FC Even with a perfect rotation, its tough (i'm by no means great at the rotation).

I'm finding I miss the old rotations more often than not, it's a shame that i'm struggling to like the job as much as before :/ If we could keep the eyes, then I think that would be a big boon for us.

[Frowny]

This is my biggest gripe with it...it takes me long enough to build up the eyes in the first place...only to hit a mechanic (and there's plenty of them) where its a race against the clock, even at the full 30sec with the extra 15sec if you BotD ready to repop...with the 7sec or so it takes to get to WT/FC Even with a perfect rotation, its tough (i'm by no means great at the rotation).

I'm finding I miss the old rotations more often than not, it's a shame that i'm struggling to like the job as much as before :/ If we could keep the eyes, then I think that would be a big boon for us.

The old rotations had what our SB lacks: the ability to adapt and not lose out. Nastrond is supposed to be our nuke (lol) yet we're punished it we wiggle too much out of a tight zone. In HW, you could dump BoTD early if needed as there was usually enough room to recover.

[Leananshee]

The old rotations had what our SB lacks: the ability to adapt and not lose out.

Yes, so much this T_T We lose so much, more so if its our fault for missing an attack before having to pull away or thinking we've got enough time to do it and fail anyway. Starting our rotation/eye built from scratch is painful to do and we have to do it often, even if we know we did really good, there are too many opportunities to slip. It's annoying!

[Vincent_Mateus]

Thanks for this. Much appreciated

[Levi-Heichou]

I feel like I got too used to Dervy and a definitive rotation so many floating around dunno what to use now

[HoLoFoNo]

Why is GSK so late in that rotation? LotD will take quite a bit longer to obtain and based on the fights we currently have that's not a good thing....

[SunnyHirose]

Even a fairly naïve interpretation of potency should indicate that Geirskogul has higher PPS than any other damager mini-system and should therefore go first (220/35 from itself + (320*2)/(4 eyes at 3 eyes per minute -> 80s) => 14.29 pps assuming a mere two Nastronds in LotD which you can probably beat vs. (250*1.3+200)/30 = 14.17 for Jump, the next highest).

[Frowny]

Yes, so much this T_T We lose so much, more so if its our fault for missing an attack before having to pull away or thinking we've got enough time to do it and fail anyway. Starting our rotation/eye built from scratch is painful to do and we have to do it often, even if we know we did really good, there are too many opportunities to slip. It's annoying!

Pretty much. In HW I can't count how many times we'd have to tweak but, if you were smart, it'd be ok. Yet in SB if we dare deviate we lose out on our already piss-poor dps (no, despite what Yoshi says NIN brings more yet can do more).