How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Stormbad]

^ Skill speed goon, new meta?

[Khel]

^ Skill speed goon, new meta?

I think it has to be, its on almost every piece of our gear.

[TheKingSlayer]

^ Skill speed goon, new meta?

I think you misunderstood, SS has nothing to do with the test. We didn't use the Arrow card which is SS, we used the Spear which is the CD reduction. Spear doesn't reduce your weaponskill CDs (full thrust, True thrust, etc.), it reduces your OGCDs (B4B, Jumps, Dragon sight, etc.). The reduction of our jumps and Geirks allow us to get LoTD up much quicker. I think it was like an 8% dps increase over 3 mins

It also seems kind of ironic, now I think about it... the card is called "Spear," like a drg spear! <mind blown>

[HoLoFoNo]

I think you misunderstood, SS has nothing to do with the test. We didn't use the Arrow card which is SS, we used the Spear which is the CD reduction. Spear doesn't reduce your weaponskill CDs (full thrust, True thrust, etc.), it reduces your OGCDs (B4B, Jumps, Dragon sight, etc.). The reduction of our jumps and Geirks allow us to get LoTD up much quicker. I think it was like an 8% dps increase over 3 mins

It also seems kind of ironic, now I think about it... the card is called "Spear," like a drg spear! <mind blown>

(It also allows for 4 nastronds if you get it during LotD, I have come across this a few times :feelsgoodman: )

[Jeatac]

I feel now that the state of Dragoon's DPS loss makes it more of class that will not be viable in Savage content, especially now SE dumped 2 more OP DPS classes. Guess we will have to wait and see come July 28th. I for one don't want no part of being a third wheel support class.

[Frowny]

I feel now that the state of Dragoon's DPS loss makes it more of class that will not be viable in Savage content, especially now SE dumped 2 more OP DPS classes. Guess we will have to wait and see come July 28th. I for one don't want no part of being a third wheel support class.

Depends on your group. Tho the class makes me go insane, my group doesn't care as it would take far too long to level up SAM.

[Grizzfunk]

Heavy >> (BoTD+Litany) Impulse >> (GK) Disembowel >> (B4B + DS) Chaos >> (Jump) WT >> (MD) FC >> (SS) TT >> (MD) VT >> (LS) FT >> (DfD) FC >> WT.

After last WT is when B4B and DS ends. I choose to give up a buffed GK in exchange for a buffed WT at end. I was always coming up short buffing WT.

I also liked GK at its current spot over shifting B4B+DS where my current GK is for when GK comes back up its free of clipping anything. It will come up with Jump still at 2-3 secs. Then of course when GK comes back around a 3rd time I will have just used Jump for my 4th eye. At this moment there is about 6 secs until B4B is up. You can choose to do unbuffed GK+Nastrond or hold about 6 secs to for B4B and do the whole GK+3 Nastrond in B4B. Your typically at Disembowel or Chaos Thrust when your hitting 4th eye. So when you B4B your doing a buffed FC and WT and then a buffed Thrust Combo. There's a Spineshatter in there also.

[Sparhwk]

I feel now that the state of Dragoon's DPS loss makes it more of class that will not be viable in Savage content, especially now SE dumped 2 more OP DPS classes. Guess we will have to wait and see come July 28th. I for one don't want no part of being a third wheel support class.

DRG won't be in meta that's for sure. Savage progression is going to be a lot of deaths and that will be devastating to a dragoon. I can't talk for MNK/NIN but in my static the SAM dies yet still gets top dps because they can recover so fast and outputs more.

DRG dies and the BRD now out does them. So DRG in savage isn't going to be wanted imo. SAM is superior and MNK/NIN bring better utility and dps. UNless we get a major buff and some rotation fixes we're going to get passed up. Granted still can pull our weight, just it's going to be a struggle.

[Finroy]

Does spear apply itself retroactively or do your oGCDs have to be cast under spear?

[HoLoFoNo]

Does spear apply itself retroactively or do your oGCDs have to be cast under spear?

The latter. In most cases that means this wont effect things like litany which are used rarely but it will effect things that are used frequently like jump.