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  1. #1341
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    Kurama Uchiha
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack891 View Post
    Hmmm we cud end up with two 4 tier combos starting with heavy thrust, for example:
    HT>DIS>CT>4TH
    HT>VT>FT>4TH

    that removes 3 GCDs=ID, TT and Phleb
    HT would have to be reduced to about 10 seconds and maybe have its positional changed to the rear
    thats my theory anyway but who knows could be anything i just hope they keep the rng of wheeling and fang
    That's pretty good too. Vorpal thrust and impulse rush are pretty filler moves which should have been done with when 4th tier was introduced. And especially will how much down time there is in these new fights, it'll help a lot to get the rotation started again. But I would go with HT - DIS - CT - 4th then PLB - VT - FT - 4th, double HT dumbs it down too much. But it all depends what new moves we will get. We would actually lose a lot of DPS without Phleb to dot up stuff.
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    Last edited by Daweism; 10-17-2016 at 03:01 PM.

  2. #1342
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    Mirajane Skysong
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    yea i would be fine with them keeping phleb, i just personally feel its a rather boring ability even the animation. As for the dps loss without it, potencies can be changed of other abilities and also a shorter rotation should allow for more geoskoguls.
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  3. #1343
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    My bad I thought you were talking about the set to prepare for in case the relic can go up to i275 (which pretty much means the best set you can make with the augmented shire spear, and you later replace the spear with the new relic).

    As for the "BiS" with savage spear, I think we can't really say if it's BiS or not since we don't know the stat weights yet. However I'd say that the set you linked should either be BiS or at least very close to BiS.
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  4. #1344
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsuya View Post
    We'll know soon about the Relic Spear since if i'm not wrong it should come out next patch. Either way thank you for the feedback, i'll try to aim for that set then for now.
    Actually I don't think so. Back in 3.2 (3.25?) we only got the relic up to i230, which is equivalent to unupgraded lore weapon. It wasn't until 3.3 that we got the i240 step, so I expect the i270/275 step to come in 3.5. That gives us probably 3 months from now?

    I'm just starting the relic for my drg, I kinda lost any motivation to continue with my war's relic after clearing a12s since the axe is already crit/det. If only I could trade my i240 relic axe to an i240 relic spear lol.
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  5. #1345
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    Kass Tenbe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsuya View Post
    We'll know soon about the Relic Spear since if i'm not wrong it should come out next patch. Either way thank you for the feedback, i'll try to aim for that set then for now.
    According to the patch 3.4 site you are correct and we should see more come 3.45.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/spe...oul_Surrender/
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    Last edited by Nixous; 10-20-2016 at 07:03 AM. Reason: Added info about 3.45

  6. #1346
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    U'tyada Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post

    As for the "BiS" with savage spear, I think we can't really say if it's BiS or not since we don't know the stat weights yet. However I'd say that the set you linked should either be BiS or at least very close to BiS.
    Shire vs Savage, with the new stat weights the savage spear is ahead by 8 str.
    As the weights aren't mine I won't release them until the person in question openly releases them.
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  7. #1347
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post
    Shire vs Savage, with the new stat weights the savage spear is ahead by 8 str.
    As the weights aren't mine I won't release them until the person in question openly releases them.
    So that means that dervy got new stat weights?
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  8. #1348
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    Actually I don't think so. Back in 3.2 (3.25?) we only got the relic up to i230, which is equivalent to unupgraded lore weapon. It wasn't until 3.3 that we got the i240 step, so I expect the i270/275 step to come in 3.5. That gives us probably 3 months from now?
    At the end of the 2.x patch cycle the final step of the Relic weapon matches that of the t13 ilvl weapon. That's why we're assuming that this final stage of the anima will follow a similar pattern.
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  9. #1349
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinji2787 View Post
    At the end of the 2.x patch cycle the final step of the Relic weapon matches that of the t13 ilvl weapon. That's why we're assuming that this final stage of the anima will follow a similar pattern.
    I was saying that we won't get that final step in the "next patch" which I assumed to be 3.45, but now that I read the post again it might be referring to the next major patch, 3.5 which most likely be where we get the final step.
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  10. #1350
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    I was saying that we won't get that final step in the "next patch" which I assumed to be 3.45, but now that I read the post again it might be referring to the next major patch, 3.5 which most likely be where we get the final step.
    Last time it was 2.41 that brought us 135 Zeta weapons. That's why we're thinking in 3.45 they'll do the same with the Anima weapons to 275.

    Oh NM I misread. I'm bad.
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