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    Player
    Sennema's Avatar
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    Sydney Lahkol
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    As said above, extended hotbars are your friends. Somewhere way back, JackFross posted one and I use basically the same one.
    Basically, my face buttons (Triangle, Square, Circle, X) are my combos on my main bar. So TTT combo is on R2 (with Fang&Claw on the Triangle spot), and on L2 my CT combo is there (with wheeling thrust on Triangle). Then the d-pad buttons are cooldowns (Battle lit, invigorate, B4B, mercy stroke, etc.)
    Then on my extended bars I have defensive cooldowns, potion, jumps (and power surge) and phlebotomize.
    As suggested, I have Leg Sweep and HT in the same position on both extended bars, so that if I mess up which hotbar I access, I don't have to stop everything.
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Also, though I don't know if this is possible on PS4 - I suggest adding one or two vertical hotbars next to your crossbar and copying the cooldowns you put on the extended crossbar on there as well, so that you can easily track your cooldowns without holding both triggers. I keep BotD, BL, BFB, LS, IR and PS on there so they're always in front of my eyes.
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    Last edited by seekified; 07-08-2016 at 11:00 PM.

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    Sennema's Avatar
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    Sydney Lahkol
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    Also, though I don't know if this is possible on PS4 - I suggest adding one or two vertical hotbars next to your crossbar and copying the cooldowns you put on the extended crossbar on there as well, so that you can easily track your cooldowns without holding both triggers. I keep BotD, BL, BFB, LS, IR and PS on there so they're always in front of my eyes.
    This is possible on PS4, and is also something I use to monitor cooldowns. I have BoTD/LS/B4B/BL/IR on my main hotbar so I can see them anyway, but I use it for Jump, PS, DFD, Second Wind, foresight, leg sweep, bloodbath and potion.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Are there any tips to follow for a fledgeling (40s) Dragoon? Or is there kinda nothing complicated enough to really be too worried? I've been going around the jobs, trying to see where I might improve my proficiency, and Dragoon just feels a bit basic at this level. There's Heavy Thrust to keep up, straightforward. Disembowel seems like a good idea to have going. Phlebotomize of course, and I try to Internal Release for that (and also using Fracture, but I can see where maybe later there's just not really room to worry about that maybe). And then it's just using buffs/oGCD skills as they come up While TTTing. Just about the gist of it until I get into HW skills?
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    Sentinillia's Avatar
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    Sentinillia Emilie
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Are there any tips to follow for a fledgeling (40s) Dragoon? Or is there kinda nothing complicated enough to really be too worried? I've been going around the jobs, trying to see where I might improve my proficiency, and Dragoon just feels a bit basic at this level. There's Heavy Thrust to keep up, straightforward. Disembowel seems like a good idea to have going. Phlebotomize of course, and I try to Internal Release for that (and also using Fracture, but I can see where maybe later there's just not really room to worry about that maybe). And then it's just using buffs/oGCD skills as they come up While TTTing. Just about the gist of it until I get into HW skills?

    Before unlocking any Heavensward abilities just use the following priority list: Heavy Thrust > Disembowel Combo > Phlebotomize > True Thrust Combo. It's a good idea to drop Fracture altogether as it has a relatively low potency and a high TP cost (220 pot/80TP). For comparison your TTT combo has ~237 pot/~63 TP per GCD without taking into account the buff that Disembowel gives. Fracture has its uses but they're very few and far between and you're better off cross-classing something like Mantra or Foresight instead.

    The gameplay of a Dragoon changes rather drastically at levels 56-60, refer back to the OP of this thread when you hit that point for more information.
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    Jones Wright
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Any thoughts on this set? pre-a8 clear with steamed staff

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/V11Q
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    Light Faucillien
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Hi everyone,

    Sorry but I just wanted to check is the content of this thread updated to the latest patch? (I'm assuming it is since I see midas 1s etc.. gears)

    So I just wanted to check, the rotation for dragoon is still the same right? Returning player here, sorry for any inconvenience
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    Malin Kanji
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Hey guys,

    There's been pressure of late from my static for me to try and improve my DPS but for some reason I feel blind to what I could do. I know there's probably a lot I need to change in what I do, but at present I have no idea what I can do etc.
    I would be really grateful if someone could have a look at one of my better fflogs and help highlight what I'm doing wrong etc.
    http://www.fflogs.com/reports/QabTLf...-done&source=8

    We've only just started to do the whole 'save buffs on pull until he goes small' thing on Ratfinx, and I'm sure that might be contributing to me screwing up later on as I'm prone to just hitting oGCDs as soon as they come off CD, leaving me buffing attacks a little before he goes small but having them wear off before he shrinks;;;
    I went a while without using potions too, and I'm starting to use them again in my opener (when I remember, oops).
    But yeah, I hope you guys can help.

    Here's my present gear too, just in case:
    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/10992409/
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    Cham Chowder
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Malin-HunnysMonsta View Post
    Hey guys,

    I know there's probably a lot I need to change in what I do, but at present I have no idea what I can do etc.
    I would be reviewing the optimal opener and how you're doing it. Checking your gier usage, making sure your rotation is -tight- ( I noticed you had 16 CT and only 12 Ph, not sure if you're not adding PH or doing CT rotation for adds without PH) and in general making sure to use your short term CD's like jump asap.
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    Last edited by ChamChowder; 07-23-2016 at 07:08 PM.

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    Cham Chowder
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Malin-HunnysMonsta View Post

    We've only just started to do the whole 'save buffs on pull until he goes small' thing

    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/10992409/
    Dragoon relies on confident usage of cooldowns and a steady roation being laid out. LS, BOTD, bfb, IR, unless these things won't be back up when you absolutely need them or you won't get their duration, use them. Experiment a little bit with your cooldowns finding a balance between uptime and saving them. You should be determining based on dps checks, burn phases, dead time, and add phases when you will get the most out of your main CD's. For example you saved BFB until 1 minute into the fight choosing not to use it in your opener. Had you just used it off the bat you would had it up in 20 seconds later than when you hit it but gained the effects of a 30% dps increase -twice- which is huge.
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