How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[JackFross]

It wasn't a typo, I figured that considering CT was gonna last much less than 30 seconds (I'm supposed to kill it before that after all) and the fourth combo isn't getting full damage, rushing directly into TTT was a better idea. Thank you for pointing that and confirming the CD bit.

Ah - but CT with the positional bonus needs to last for 3s in order to be a net gain over using FT instead (assuming CT is not currently flowing). CT without positional bonus loses 50 potency - the CT DoT bit is 35 potency per tick - +2 of those will put you over what you'd get from a TTT combo. For more efficient display, we'll assume no positional bonus on:

H>ID>TTT4>TTT4>[ded mob]
H>IDC4>TTT4>TTT4?

First:
100 + (180 + 220 + (150+200+360+200)x2x1.1)x1.15 = 2862.3
= 2862.3 in 11 GCDs

Second:
100 + (180 + 220 + (200+200+150+200+360+200)x1.1)x1.15 = 2217.15
DoT effector: 35x(5*2.4+1)x1.15/3 = 174.42
= 2391.57 in 9 GCDs
Assume we add +2 GCDs to this, we'd do ID>Dis for maximum potency
(180+220)x1.1x1.15 + 35x(2x2.4)x1.15/3 = 570.4
= 2961.97 in 11 GCDs

Overall more potency to use Chaos Thrust.

Mine in that image died in 8 GCDs, so if we truncate these two, we end up with:

First:
2862.3 - (200+360+200)x1.1x1.15 = 1900.9

Second:
2391.57 - 200x1.1x1.15 - 35x2.4x1.15/3 = 2106.37

Net gain in those first 8 GCDs, where you weave in oGCDs to kill the thing asap.

[ColdestHeaven]

I think I've got the gist of it. I'll try this next time and see if I make it.

[MiniTyra]

I'd just go for this set: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UA9Z

It's the set that Dervy is aiming for and just use whatever i240 weapon you can get your hands on. That way, Pre-A8S is exactly the same as Post-A8S, only a Midan Spear swap. Chances are, Relic will be customisable and would best be invested into crit/det and there's a high chance Nidhogg weapon will be i240 Crit/Det. If it's Accuracy/Det, then of course, we'll have to see which is better :P

[JackFross]

That way, Pre-A8S is exactly the same as Post-A8S, only a Midan Spear swap.

The Midan Jacket of Maiming drops from A8S as well, so you'll be missing that before killing, as well. That has a pretty substantial impact on how you build that set. If the issue was just SKS from the spear, then yeah, it'd be great, but both non-Midan options for the chest have 70+ SKS on them IN ADDITION TO the skill speed from the spear, all of which stacks on top of the 558, forcing you to sit at 712 Skill Speed - quite a bit more than is realistically worthwhile.

It's also been confirmed - 100% confirmed - that the next patch will bring 240 Anima relics with completely customizable stats. Screenshots seem to imply a 120 maximum for Crit/Acc/Sks and a 115 maximum for Det, with 228 maximum stat points allowed to be allocated (the exact same amount of points you can put on an i240 Slipstream spear - 120 Crit + 84 Sks + 24 Det = 228 total points).

[MiniTyra]

Oh it drops from A8S? That's a bummer. Maybe I should of been paying more attention to the items that drop, lmao.

[JackFross]

Yeah, it's kinda weird this time around.

A5S - Belts + Accessories
A6S - Two each of Head/Hands/Feet per Job + Deep Gobcoat + Tomestone
A7S - Leftover of Head/Hands/Feet per Job + Legs + Deep Gobtwine + Deep Gobdip
A8S - Chest + Weapon

A6S pages work for all of Head/Hands/Feet - 6 per, so most people who are not Dragoon because the Mask drops in 7 and it sucks will buy their 7 drop with their first 6 pages from 6.

To be honest, I wish they had put the Legs and Chests into that same pool of gear and had one in 7 and one in 8, with it differing per Job to give the good one in 7 and the shittier one in 8 :C... Or even just to let the 7 pages buy chest pieces.

[CookieMonsta]

Yeah, it's kinda weird this time around.

A5S - Belts + Accessories
A6S - Two each of Head/Hands/Feet per Job + Deep Gobcoat + Tomestone
A7S - Leftover of Head/Hands/Feet per Job + Legs + Deep Gobtwine + Deep Gobdip
A8S - Chest + Weapon

A6S pages work for all of Head/Hands/Feet - 6 per, so most people who are not Dragoon because the Mask drops in 7 and it sucks will buy their 7 drop with their first 6 pages from 6.

To be honest, I wish they had put the Legs and Chests into that same pool of gear and had one in 7 and one in 8, with it differing per Job to give the good one in 7 and the shittier one in 8 :C... Or even just to let the 7 pages buy chest pieces.

or even better, I wish they let the chest drop from 7S with the only things dropping from A8S are the weapons and a selection of cool mounts/pets. I feel getting the chest as a drop from A8S feels like a troll drop since you could've gotten the massively better weapon.

[JackFross]

or even better, I wish they let the chest drop from 7S with the only things dropping from A8S are the weapons and a selection of cool mounts/pets. I feel getting the chest as a drop from A8S feels like a troll drop since you could've gotten the massively better weapon.

Well, it's two chests, no? It drops weapon and chest. And - at least for me - the chest is a larger upgrade than the weapon, due to using the 220 crafted in my final no-8 set.

[natyusha]

Don't forget about my favorite set: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/U5BI with about 1~ strength less and dirt cheap grilled sweetfish for food

The Above set is great for me since it shares right side melds and gear with the Monk BiS.