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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTyra View Post
    Xero, could you check your JXero reddit acc pls m8 ty ily
    tyvm for the update. Cheers. ^^

    - Edited: 20k Hits is pretty accurate for testing. My testing was not far off but it could be better. ty Sunny.

    Please look forward to it.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 05-15-2016 at 12:50 AM.
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Can I just say that I love this raid tier? It makes me actually think about my opener and rework it slightly based on the fight in order to work all the skills in and still have them back and ready for when I want the skills again.

    Like the Swindler CT>CT opener so that you don't end up with a gimped CT on the boss before the adds spawn, or shifting Jumps around in the A8S opener (I have Jump just after CT to get it in before Seeds, SSD in the normal spot, and DFD after Full Thrust to safely handle mechanics because of my groups inconsistent seed placements). It's fun and makes me actually think about things rather than just doing the same shit every encounter.

    It's also the first raid tier where holding buffs can have actually significant gains. It's just really fun that DPS is a dynamic thing, rather than the static, rote, kinda droll role that it's been since forever. Like - fights have always felt like they were timed perfectly with my optimal DRG opener. Midas is the first time that mechanics have started to actively undermine it and force me to adjust.
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    Can I just say that I love this raid tier? It makes me actually think about my opener and rework it slightly based on the fight in order to work all the skills in and still have them back and ready for when I want the skills again.
    yup feels almost contrived even, like YoshiP hand tuned the fights to mess with the DRG opener to serve as a skill check. I will forever hate A7S because that stupid Corporal Punishment timing is waay too conveniently annoying, its like they know thats the exact time the potion/jump is coming out.
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    yup feels almost contrived even, like YoshiP hand tuned the fights to mess with the DRG opener to serve as a skill check. I will forever hate A7S because that stupid Corporal Punishment timing is waay too conveniently annoying, its like they know thats the exact time the potion/jump is coming out.
    Right!? Same with the Seeds in A8S! And then the Execution cast comes out right after an Impulse Drive, but takes long enough that I end up delaying my Disembowel until I'm hitting the Regulator.

    I don't use potions because I hate how rigid they make my opener, so I'm unsure how exactly awful they make everything, but I can only imagine.
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    The first thing you should do, imo, is grind out some Farthings from Void Ark to turn those 200's into 210's - it'll go a long way toward increasing your damage output. Optionally/ideally hit up Gordias savage for Gobtwines and Gobcoats alongside some Gordian drops (like the gloves from 2 and some accessories from 1 - 3 has twines, so maybe focus on twines from Farthings).

    The best way to build, imho, is to look to the future. See which pieces are least likely to be replaced for the longest time. For example, the Lore pants, head, ring, and earring are all guaranteed to be on your BiS build, since the alternatives in those slots are just not as good. The above is a pretty good buy order. That takes you through pretty much all of the Lore you can spend before you need to save for the Spear, assuming you now have 2 Midan Gears in your inventory.

    You can round out the rest of the missing slots with crafted gear if you want. Only one piece of crafted is necessary, imo - the chest piece. It won't be replaced until a8s is dead since it beats the i240 Lore chest in stat weight before melds.

    As far as the Anima is concerned, the Rhongomiant is (marginally) less powerful than the Slipstream Partisan at i230, and we're not sure if the next step will be in 3.3 or 3.35 just yet. However, it's a long grind and will absolutely definitely completely be worth it going forward, so I would recommend at least starting on it, even while getting the Slipstream Partisan for the now.

    As far as materia is concerned, meld III's and IV's on anything that's not i240 with normal consideration for stats, favoring ACC to cap.

    CRIT V > CRIT IV > DET V > SKS V > CRIT III > SKS IV > DET IV > SKS III > DET III
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    Last edited by JackFross; 05-17-2016 at 10:03 PM.

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    Awesome, super helpful, thank you!
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    Credit goes to Judge_Xero for doing the original work and additional data collection

    https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/2016/...-works-part-1/

    Calling it now. A12S front accuracy will be 752. Place your bets!
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    Last edited by MiniTyra; 05-19-2016 at 01:19 PM.

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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Dibs on 753 ;p

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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 05-20-2016 at 04:59 AM.

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    Leon Manderville
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I have the entire HQ 220 set equipped.
    HQ220 chest : Slipstream Chest(230)
    STR 111 : 121
    VIT 119 : 131
    SkSPeed 70 : 74

    But the HQ220 chest gives me 100 crit and the Slip gives 106 accuracy.
    Should i choose 100 crit over 10 more strength and 100 more accuracy?

    My crit is 657 and my accuracy is 701

    I want to deal the most damage possible, but im not sure which would give the most damage. I dont know if i should bother with the 240 stuff since 3.3 is in about 2 weeks. Anyone want to advise a newby drg?
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    I have the entire HQ 220 set equipped.
    100 Crit is approximately +20 points of Strength, so yes? If you have the accuracy to support keeping it, keep it. If you're lacking melds at the moment, get on that. Buy the Slipstream pants, instead. That comparison is night and day - you trade acc/sks for crit/det. No contest which is better.

    Meld accuracy and go for the slip pants.
    Or grab slip gloves, hat, boots, ring, or earring. Those are all upgrades that trash the 220 crafted pieces.

    Other, more important question - what weapon are you using?
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