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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonx View Post

    Defiance adds the same effective HP as Grit and Shield Oath, in addition to being oGCD while the others are GCD. So, percentage wise, taking the same hit unmitigated is going to look the same on a PLD as a DRK as a WAR, if they are all in respective tank stances.
    This is flat out not true, but it's widely perpetuated because hey, anything to make War look even better than it is and justify further buffs for pld, right?

    The ehp was slightly lower even back in 2.0.

    It also doesn't affect healing from skills, and almost all of the healers new kit is skills. So, it's worse than it's ever been.


    The ogcd thing is great, but War's don't gain the hp discrepancy when swapping into defiance and instantly lose any extra when swapping back. Having 20% DR on instant demand would be ludicrously powerful. I really think a lot of people clamouring for this don't look at the very many very real drawbacks War's tank stance has compared to the others.

    For all the complaints about Inner beast being brokenly powerful on demand damage reduction, there sure are a lot of paladins that complain about their own on demand gcd eating damage reduction to be clunky and awkward, even though the mp cost is far less prohibitive than burning 5 wrath stacks and you don't have to be in melee range of a target to activate it.

    I'm not saying pld isn't in a rough spot right now, but if you're going to draw comparisons at least make them fair and educated ones, much like you were able to do when looking at the raging strikes situation.
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    Last edited by ArdorGrey; 09-13-2015 at 03:54 AM.