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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    >I can buy my class' appropriate gear and use it immediately, granted I have that class leveled to 60. Your PvP rank is your PvP level, gained from earning PvP EXP. You want to wear rank 50 stuff without being rank 50.

    >Because that small part of the game is supposed to be separated from the rest of the game. PvE and PvP.

    Truth to be told, they're both separate instances in the game and have their own qualifications and statistics. We shouldn't be comparing the two, but you keep saying that you earned the right to wear it with your "hard work" when you don't have the PvP rank to show for it.
    It seems like they are doing exactly opposite of what your saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    You can be Rank 50 and not be able to wear any gear because your not level 60. Logic Failed. Sorry, rank is not levels.

    Also, if that is indeed true. Then why are they working on making them work together more? You can use PVP gear in PvE, infact the stats are better for PVE then the ilvl 180 gear.
    Rank is PvP level. You need rank to wear PvP armor. What is there to not understand. You can use it in PvE, but it doesn't mean they're better. It's the same principle as PvE gear (tomestone vs dungeon drops) where they have different stat budgeting. Some PvP pieces are straight up worse than the PvE counterpart at the same ilvl.

    Yet they don't reward Wolf Marks for Dungeons, so no they aren't working for them to be the same. No one who wants good matches in PvP even like the eso rewards because it gets in the way of people actually giving a damn for the mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Rank is PvP level. You need rank to wear PvP armor. What is there to not understand. You can use it in PvE, but it doesn't mean they're better. It's the same principle as PvE gear (tomestone vs dungeon drops) where they have different stat budgeting. Some PvP pieces are straight up worse than the PvE counterpart at the same ilvl.

    Yet they don't reward Wolf Marks for Dungeons, so no they aren't working for them to be the same. No one who wants good matches in PvP even like the eso rewards because it gets in the way of people actually giving a damn for the mode.
    You need rank to wear level 50 armor? Nope. It was removed, and hopefully this is too soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Safe to ignore.
    Move along nothing to see here. Just someone who wants free glamors. They have complained on the pvp board and no one takes it serious. They don't post from main character. Because I can't believe anyone with Arcanist 60 thaum 26 and conj 20 could be expected to be taken seriously. Oh forgot pugilist 1. They have put little effort into ranking up.

    They are right about one thing though, they could make it so the vendor refuses to sell. So marks fall to the floor so you wont be taunted by the oh my glamours. The system actually protects your marks and lets you buy. Unlike lets name two, Grand Company and Advanced marks.

    About all people should complain about is the horrible gating of the que. Someone has done the math and it is not that much effort to get to rank. It is though a pain to sit in 30 min ques meaning a two hour play time could net you three games or less. Which in turn feels unfair given that if you put 2 hours into anything you should be able to net some better reward then just under 700 xp per two hours. The system is flawed but not in the way they project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    You need rank to wear level 50 armor? Nope. It was removed, and hopefully this is too soon.
    because it is practically useless now and has no further meaning to pvp since the new pve equipment came out? it is nothing more than a means to glamour.

    PvP Gear just gives players an edge over others. Which is probably why they want to keep their unfair advantage because they don't want to PvP fairly.
    in wich way does it give an edge over others when the pvp ilvl of seal rock is currently capped at 150.morale doesn't change that ilvl cap, aswell as materia.

    you have no idea what you're talking about, am i right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    because it is practically useless now and has no further meaning to pvp since the new pve equipment came out? it is nothing more than a means to glamour.



    in wich way does it give an edge over others when the pvp ilvl of seal rock is currently capped at 150.morale doesn't change that ilvl cap, aswell as materia.

    you have no idea what you're talking about, am i right?
    I guess they changed it. So its completely useless now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    So PvP/PvE gear has no difference really except secondary stats, which PvP gear is clearly better at. It is still an edge.
    and in which way exactly are they better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    GRRR ARRGG you have never even had the gear on to see the stat difference in frontlines.
    I'm going straight from what the other posters told me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    and in which way exactly are they better?
    If you are a crazy min maxer you can get the odd +1 crit or +1 det out of the morale ilvl sync. It is literally plus 1. But some of the gear has acc on it now which would have taken away a secondary stat so you can find better pieces without accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    So PvP/PvE gear has no difference really except secondary stats, which PvP gear is clearly better at. It is still an edge.
    How does PvP gear have an edge over PvE gear when it's i180 and the maximum (reasonably attainable for most) level of PvE gear is i200? The secondary stat allocation in no way makes up for the deficit in primary stats that you'd have by using i180 gear.
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