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    Lyrre Myste
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    Idea, only cycle out expert dungeons every other patch

    from what has been stated, dungeons will only come in two now, and that gives us a limited set of options for grinding out your weekly. too few options, easy to burn out on.

    so i propose something of an idea to try to keep to keep our options plentiful: only cycle out expert dungeons from two patches prior.

    for example, with this idea implemented we would have fractal, neverreap, and the two dungeons being added in 3.1. when 3.2 hits, the two dungeons added in would replace fractal and neverreap, and when 3.3 hits, the 3.1 dungeons would be phased into a different roulette.

    thoughts?
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    It won't work because people always want the quickest/most tome options. Add in two new dungeons, those dungeons tend to offer best tome acquisition on top of Expert.

    75 from doing daily, but then say the new dungeons had +15 more weekly tomes you could obtain. Then you could get it done in 5 dailies rather than the current 6. Slight yet huge change that would be lost if the current dungeons were part of the expert roulette because then it would just be a game of luck if you would get the 5 runs to cap or have to do 6, because 1 roulette in which you did the 2 current dungeons would mean there is no point in doing the higher dungeons because it'll take 6 runs to cap regardless.
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    Colman Meridius
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    Expert roulette is dull as hell now, they need to do something to it. I still don't understand why the atheriochemical research dungeon isn't part of it. I loved that place only to do it once
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    Kaalia Deathrender
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Expert roulette is dull as hell now, they need to do something to it. I still don't understand why the atheriochemical research dungeon isn't part of it. I loved that place only to do it once
    I agree, expert is starting to make me get burnt.. I get Neverreap. every. Time. I would love more dungeon variety in the tome grind
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Expert roulette is dull as hell now, they need to do something to it. I still don't understand why the atheriochemical research dungeon isn't part of it. I loved that place only to do it once
    Same reason the praetorium and castrum meridianum aren't part of high level roulette.
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    Or alternatively they could make other things just as viable to farm Esoterics. Give Alexander 20-30 Eso, Void Ark 40-70, High Level Roulette 30, Trial Roulette 20, Bismarck & Ravana EX 15-20, Leveling Roulette 30-40 (these dungeons usually drag on forever), etc. I don't see why they don't do this already, would giving players some variety really kill you SE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Or alternatively they could make other things just as viable to farm Esoterics. Give Alexander 20-30 Eso, Void Ark 40-70, High Level Roulette 30, Trial Roulette 20, Bismarck & Ravana EX 15-20, Leveling Roulette 30-40 (these dungeons usually drag on forever), etc. I don't see why they don't do this already, would giving players some variety really kill you SE?
    The problem is that they risk people running everything, capping in a couple days, and not playing for the rest of the week. That screws over people with less free time or can't play on Tuesday or Wednesday because their queues will be longer. If their queues are longer, it's more likely they get frustrated with the game and unsub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The problem is that they risk people running everything, capping in a couple days, and not playing for the rest of the week. That screws over people with less free time or can't play on Tuesday or Wednesday because their queues will be longer. If their queues are longer, it's more likely they get frustrated with the game and unsub.
    I believe people are more likely to quit over running two dungeons over and over until they get sick of them than long queue times, but I don't see that happening regardless. Back when the CT weekly quest I could do it of any day of the week (even 1 before reset) and get in very quickly, people are going to be running them every day of the week, you might get 5-10 minutes of longer queues but that's not going to make anyone quit (unless there's a Tank out there that would quit over the sight of even 1/4th of a DPS queue).

    5-10 minutes of extra queue time is a very worthwhile "risk" (there's really no risk there) to give the players more variety. And who's to say everyone's going to run everything to begin with? I certainly wouldn't, probably do expert roulette one day, run Alexander a few times the next, High Level Roulette + Frontlines the next, that sounds absolutely amazing to me. I'd much prefer that over what we have now.
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    Last edited by Colorful; 09-12-2015 at 06:59 AM.