Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
You forget that EQ and FFXI also had the problem of *having* to put that many hours in it or you couldn't get anywhere or do anything.

I once dated a guy that played EQ1 in high school.

Court *took his computer away* because he refused to go to school, because otherwise he'd fall behind from his raid group.

You *had* to spend those long hours.

People don't have time for that and when they have a feeling of "well shit, I'm not getting anything done", the quit.
Wrong for EQ, you could powerlevel and have high levels help you in EQ. As long as you had friends or were nice to people you could ask for help. EQ had one of the most helpful communities in the MMO industry. Honestly, it also had some of the worst trolls too, however people expected it. They treated it more like a virtual world then a game. Your voice and opinion mattered and if you did troll and disrespect other players nobody liked or helped you. These days with dungeon finder and all that reputation means ::[[LOL]]::.

Raiders are all like that though, but raiding in EQ with 72 man raids was something else. You literally had to take *shifts* in your raid force because there were large lockouts and the zones took 3-4 days to clear.