More Horizontal Progression please

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Nektulos-Tuor

Could you do me a favor and not declare your opinions as fact.

"Boring" is a matter of opinion. Not something inalienable you can throw around like labeling a color, or a type of fruit. It's ok that you and others find it boring. Others do not, and you should respect that.

By the way, showing off your hours played on a video game is no badge of honor, it may actually discrediting you at this point.

Showing your experience in playing and knowing video games is discouraging. I see.

My Opinions are facts to me I mean they are "my" opinions, less you find zerging a boss fun. Seems to be the trend these days.

Maybe i'm wrong, maybe Zerging is really fun, and that is why its popular.

[Hyrist]

Showing your experience in playing and knowing video games is discouraging. I see.

My Opinions are facts to me I mean they are "my" opinions, less you find zerging a boss fun. Seems to be the trend these days.

Maybe i'm wrong, maybe Zerging is really fun, and that is why its popular.

And there you are with the inflammatory speech. Please understand that I'm being respectful to you and if there's misinterpretation here, I apologize.

You're showing levels of playing that could be considered unhealthy, actually. Again, playing games obsessively, which could be the impression shown by your hours, may not be an indicator that you are the type of person the developers should appeal to, but rather of the habitual levels of the game that fall outside the target audience, so please, keep that in mind.

Playing games 'a whole lot' also does not make you an expert in game design. A person who play games a little, and still feels accomplished and entertained can be even more knowledgeable than someone who spends the great majority of their life on games. You toting around your playtime on games actually seems to display a lack of understanding of this concept. As does your "Opinions are facts to me." debate. Please note, this is an impression, not saying that this is a fact. I'm cautioning you about what you are expressing in hopes of directing the conversation along a more constructive path.

You have to understand that games are not designed around the individual consumer, but around a set target audience. It is up to you to come to the understanding of whether or not you fit within this target for each individual game, provide respectful feedback. based on your impressions, and then, if not met, seek different sources of entertainment.

I would also contest that any of the content outside of content that is overpopulated, out-leveled or out-geared could ever be zerged - that any piece of. In this case I think you are mistaking zerging with a fight that has been reduced to an understandable routine.

[FizzleofHyperion]

Is the discussion the same on the japanese forums? Are the japanese players complaining about the same things as us? Someone who can read japanese please check and let us know.

[Iromi]

Is the discussion the same on the japanese forums? Are the japanese players complaining about the same things as us? Someone who can read japanese please check and let us know.

Good question...I'd like to know as well. Last I remember reading on here, someone did say the same issues are going on over there and they discussing it, etc.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

Is the discussion the same on the japanese forums? Are the japanese players complaining about the same things as us? Someone who can read japanese please check and let us know.

Hi, someone previously said about reading this on the forums. I can read japanese at an intermediate level and I can tell you that things like the vertical progression, the ilevel system being restrictive, the lack of freedom that comes with it (like not being able to play more than one job at end game competitively due to the caps), among other things, affecting their enjoyment they get from the game is been discussed on the General Discussion forum.

They also mention that the game is too solo oriented, as well as once content is been done, there is nothing to keep players interested. No replayability.

[FizzleofHyperion]

Tyla_Esmeraude: Then that means its more FFXI gamers in the JP forums that appreciate horizontal progression. IMO there is no need for more western world MMORPGs. They should have sticked with the hard formula. Most of us went to FFXIV because we wanted a challenge not a new WoW :P

[Nadirah]

Tyla_Esmeraude: Then that means its more FFXI gamers in the JP forums that appreciate horizontal progression. IMO there is no need for more western world MMORPGs. They should have sticked with the hard formula. Most of us went to FFXIV because we wanted a challenge not a new WoW :P

Funny, because 1.0 was just that and it failed. Hard.

This game was designed for the western market.

[Tenku]

Funny, because 1.0 was just that and it failed. Hard.

This game was designed for the western market.

You didn't play 1.0. 1.0 failed because everything was delayed and slow. 1.0 felt like you were playing a dumb down version of FFXI. FFXI was honestly much smoother than 1.0.

[Fendred]

You didn't play 1.0. 1.0 failed because everything was delayed and slow. 1.0 felt like you were playing a dumb down version of FFXI. FFXI was honestly much smoother than 1.0.

I'd go even farther to say it was at best a late alpha product. It was so bad that anyone saying it was equivalent to FFXI are unknowingly comparing apples and oranges. There were videos of the massive amount of copy-pasted terrain. The combat was pretty bad at release as well. I have no idea how it was after the patches, since I didn't stick around for very long. None of my original 1.0 characters made it to level 10.

[Nadirah]

You didn't play 1.0. 1.0 failed because everything was delayed and slow. 1.0 felt like you were playing a dumb down version of FFXI. FFXI was honestly much smoother than 1.0.

I didn't play 1.0 because my computer wouldn't run it.

Not by choice. I tend to give any game that isn't immediately identifiable as "grindfest" a shot, and it looks like I missed the bullet with that one looking back.

I don't play the games that are collectively known as "Asian grinders" or "Korean grinders". Missed EQ1. Watched bf play that, and then later Lineage and Lineage 2. Was glad I missed a bullet with those too.