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    Xiven's Avatar
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    Xiere Sevier
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    Premade Troll Teams

    So, more than a few times, I've queued to tank a 4-man dungeon, and run into premade parties who like to generally be dicks. They usually like to complain that, no matter what you're doing, you're bad at it. They attack the wrong enemy at every turn, just to piss you off and drag out the instance. The healer will be undergeared and intentionally barely keep you alive. Then they tell you they're all max iLv. tanks and you're just a filthy degenerate.

    What do you guys do when this happens? Clearly, if you try to kick one, the other two will vote 'No,' and ultimately force you to leave before you complete the dungeon (blatantly killing themselves on boss fights, refusing to fight, etc.). Then you have to wait half an hour and roll again. And of course when a new tank joins they're going to say that you were a Gil seller, a hacker, a troll, or somesuch and that everyone should report you. I know this gets significantly worse in endgame...
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    It happens in all content, usually as it becomes older. They're now in Alexander & I've completely lost any interest in running it with PUGs even though I need to get a particular drop.

    Annoyingly they tend to be people who have done things like Savage with their statics so think it's great fun to rile up the "casual scum" who can't dedicate the time and/or money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    It happens in all content, usually as it becomes older. They're now in Alexander & I've completely lost any interest in running it with PUGs even though I need to get a particular drop.

    Annoyingly they tend to be people who have done things like Savage with their statics so think it's great fun to rile up the "casual scum" who can't dedicate the time and/or money.
    I'm not sure what this even means to be honest?
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    Last edited by Ryel; 09-11-2015 at 03:46 PM.

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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    I'm not sure what this even means to be honest?
    I am fairly certain he is passive aggressively telling the OP that they are casual scum and a bad player, and that the people telling him he sucks are experienced vets who know how to properly play their class as they've cleared the hardest content in the game.

    OP, I kind of agree with Maleviction. I've never seen this, and if it's a common occurrence, then maybe what they are saying are actually tips to try and help you. I know that when people tell you how to play, it can appear offensive. Just remember that tone isn't very well conveyed through text and maybe they weren't trying to be as mean as you received it?
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    Rivenblack Balemourn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    It happens in all content, usually as it becomes older. They're now in Alexander & I've completely lost any interest in running it with PUGs even though I need to get a particular drop.

    Annoyingly they tend to be people who have done things like Savage with their statics so think it's great fun to rile up the "casual scum" who can't dedicate the time and/or money.
    BINGO This is precisely what happens. And its not just a FFXIV thing either. Same thing happened on WoW with their Looking For Raid que. People who cleared hard modes would que as groups to troll casuals and punish them for not being "real" raiders.

    Some people are only happy if they are making others miserable.
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Premade groups in the DF queue in general can be a pain even if they are not trolling they will often gang up on the extra person they picked up if something goes wrong even if it wasn't their fault. The most irritating examples of trolling as a premade was back in CT because it's so easy to purposely cause a wipe you'd get a whole alliance of people from the same server who just joined to troll and you couldn't kick any of them.
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    Ciel Whitewind
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    One of the great things about being the healer is that when I run into this (and I don't very often,thankfully) I just start letting everyone die over and over until they kick me.

    Who's the troll now, bitches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OfTheWhitewind View Post
    One of the great things about being the healer is that when I run into this (and I don't very often,thankfully) I just start letting everyone die over and over until they kick me.

    Who's the troll now, bitches?
    lol, you I like.
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by OfTheWhitewind View Post
    One of the great things about being the healer is that when I run into this (and I don't very often,thankfully) I just start letting everyone die over and over until they kick me.

    Who's the troll now, bitches?
    Omg I love you lmao...

    But to OP the concept is the same with tanking just let them die don't use Emity skills, they will eventually quit or kick you in summary just become a bad tank fight fire with fire...

    And those idiots in Alexander have just ruined it for me I enjoyed doing my weekly but since ppl think it's funny to troll in there I haven't done Alex in weeks this is that darn CT tower all over again.
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    Ivar Lyfjaberg
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    never experienced this in FF and I thought FF community wasn't as toxic as the WOW community so that's a surprise reading this

    if its not fun anymore though I would leave the dungeon and take the penalty, their is a lot to do in FF like crafting , fates, quest, plenty of things if you need to get away from dungeon trolls
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