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  1. #181
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    AlternativeOne's Avatar
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    Haji Noirterel
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    Goblin
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I don't think they can make any of that content relevant. The gear was glamor trash before it released. None of that content makes your character stronger or has benifits other than glamor. Since it ugly as sin, it's not even good glamor gear. I'll definitely quit this game if any future content forces us back into 2.x content. I didn't enjoy it when it was kinda relevant I'll hate it if I have to do it for anything else.
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  2. #182
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    Mikhaill's Avatar
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    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    The towers and possibly Void Ark should have their own roulette.
    CT + are my fave dungeons in this game, and now it's dead as hell...
    :/
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  3. #183
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    seorin's Avatar
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    Kestrel Fairmeadow
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    Faerie
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Allowing unsynched groups I still think is the best option here because we don't really need another roulette, roulette bonuses for outdated content feels like bribery, especially considering that if you want to run it, you can queue for it already. People just don't want to do it.
    It's less bribery and more giving people an additional reason to run it. Battle on the Big Bridge is a good example of a fight that people often enjoy running but still tend not to unless there's some reason. A reason is needed because everybody has goals to work towards, and they tend to ignore things that don't help them meet those goals. It's the same as players finding the fastest way to do something and then doing only that even when it's not fun. Strange as it might seem, the lack of players running CT is not evidence that people don't want to run it.
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  4. #184
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    Krylo's Avatar
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    Khaela Alteri
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    roulette bonuses for outdated content feels like bribery, especially considering that if you want to run it, you can queue for it already. People just don't want to do it.
    I enjoy CT. In fact, CT 2 was how I farmed most of my light because hitting Garuda with a stick for days wasn't fun at all.

    However, with HW out, CT gives me nothing of value for my time. It'd slow down my ablity to level alternate classes/get esoterics/do crating/whatever else I want to do with 0 pay off. As long as there's no reason to do it, myself and many others who may enjoy it, just aren't going to. Which creates long queue times, which makes it even more of a waste of time to queue for it, making people in my boat even less likely to do it and make queue times even worse. Etc. etc.

    Unsynched would do nothing to fix this because it wouldn't make CT suddenly provide benefits or rewards that make it worth the time away from doing other things, and, therefore, would do very little to alleviate it for veterans who want to play it again--and even less for new players who want to experience it the first time in anything resembling how it was intended to be played.

    Adding unsynched along with other things is fine, but it's just straight up not a fix for dead content.
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  5. #185
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    Voldemort's Avatar
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    Character
    Princess Estellise
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    I would like the option for undersized parties to do Crystal Tower, but how would that work?

    If the content was intended for 24 level 50s, I doubt 8 level 60s will pull the same weight...


    And I wish to redo the CT events for glamour. Some of the Demon armor is cool, and some free company members long for the Amon Hat to complete their machinist outfits.
    And the Puff of Darkness minion....
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  6. #186
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
    World
    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by seorin View Post
    It's less bribery and more giving people an additional reason to run it. Battle on the Big Bridge is a good example of a fight that people often enjoy running but still tend not to unless there's some reason. A reason is needed because everybody has goals to work towards, and they tend to ignore things that don't help them meet those goals. It's the same as players finding the fastest way to do something and then doing only that even when it's not fun. Strange as it might seem, the lack of players running CT is not evidence that people don't want to run it.
    Actually, it is evidence.

    If you want to do it bad enough you'll suffer the queues.
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  7. #187
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    LunaHoshino's Avatar
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    Luna Hoshino
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Just as evidence that people are in fact still interested in running it...

    About a week ago one of my FCmates who had just hit 50 unlocked CT, so we decided to put together a server-wide alliance via PF so that she could experience all three raids. We had 24 people ready to go in approximately 20 minutes, all of whom stuck around for all three raids. The general attitude was that people were very happy that someone had organized a group because they missed running it/wanted a piece for glamour/wanted to do the weekly to upgrade their IW stuff or to get an IW weapon. So why didn't they just queue up for it on their own? Because the queues were prohibitively long.

    Lengthy queues can dissuade people who might otherwise run something. If someone only has, say, two hours a day to play, and their choice is running a few dailies or spending the majority of those two hours queued up for a single duty, most people are going to choose to do several things instead of sitting around waiting for just one. Want has nothing to do with it when you factor in the fact that the majority of players have a limited amount of time to spend on the game daily.
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  8. #188
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    It's quite a significant increase in stats. I've completed brayflox hm and Isle of Umbra, on warrior. Mobs hit less hard, requiring less heals... less heals equals more dps. As long as there's enough people to deal with standing on pads and such, it's fine.
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  9. #189
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    Niadissa's Avatar
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    Niadissa Nelhah
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    If they implement queuing like the PVP queue, they should assign the leader of group "A" as "Raid Leader" and let him/her move party members around so that way one group doesn't end up with zero healers, tanks, or all the same dps classes.
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  10. #190
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Kai Magnus
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I still say making the mobs in the LoA, ST, and WoD drop Exp would be a good motivator for cuing it. With as many enemies as you fight in those raids you could probably get at least one level per run if Exp droped there.
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