CT is dead, please fix

[AriaEnia]

Some people doing CT is for trolling now. Had one premade troll party last night. I don't wanna talk about it, I mean how could they do that? don't they feel bad at all to people?
Took 50 minutes just to finish Labyrinth because of them. As much as I want to leave, I didnt wanna wait for another 2 hours waiting in queue for it, plus the penalty.

[Dyvid]

How about you read the thread instead of thinking everything contrary to you is trolling.



Exactly my point, CT is made for people not good enough for coil. (You're just adding unnecessary sugar but okay) And making it viable again just to rehash the worn-out 2.x content is absolutely ridiculous.

Sorry but you are wrong, nice try though. CT is ARR's 24-man raid that was meant to be release along with Coil but the released date slipped when the Devs felt it was too hard and needed adjustments. The idea was to gear up with CT before moving on to Coil much like you run Alex Normal before heading into Savage, hence the lower ilvl. Contrary to your opinion, it wasn't for Coil wash-out, but vertical progress like everything else in the game.

[Escha]

I'm on my phone and I can't be arsed to edit out long quotes. But ok. You're obviously just making blatant alibis why you're not good enough for coil (in your case you weren't "interested")

[Adire]

I'm on my phone and I can't be arsed to edit out long quotes. But ok. You're obviously just making blatant alibis why you're not good enough for coil (in your case you weren't "interested")

Sure....would you like for me to quote every post you've made on the thread for you?

Just because I don't hardcore raid in games anymore doesn't mean I suddenly suck at games or raiding. I just don't have fun with that anymore these days and lack the motivation to do it. Care to come up with a stronger argument than just telling me I must automatically not be good enough for coil just because I take no interest in doing it?

Spouting hot air and baseless insults don't make you look very smart or nice.

You're really looking like a troll now actually. Ad hominem at its finest. And I really think it's adorable that you think it logical to try and insinuate that you know more about my gaming history, skills, and interest than I do.

[Escha]

Whatever you say just to feed your confirmation delusion.

[Noxifer]

Whatever you say just to feed your confirmation delusion.

Can you just... let go of your notion? Please? Yes, the towers were easier than coil. Does that mean that people who raid automatically don't run the 24-man dungeons? Does it mean the people running and enjoying the design of the CT runs are automatically bad?

I know I read that they intended to release CT before coil, but due to issues (probably in figuring out the best way to implement 3-party runs, and tweaking out as many bugs as possible with that), they ran out of time and had to change their plans and switch the two raids around. And if that's so, then I'm sure that at that point they could have decided to push the Labyrinth gear forward, and make it the 'stepping stool' to gear up for the next raid, or just switch the ilvls around (making BCoB i80 and LotA i90), but I'm fairly certain that if they'd done that, some people would have complained loudly that their raid gear, which still wasn't complete, would be 'invalidated' by faceroll gear. Of course, I don't claim to have any idea of why they implemented things the way they did, or any processes they went through when deciding to do so.

Whether those 24-man raids are aimed at the mid-tier of players or not, it doesn't really change that they're there for the entire playerbase to do, just as the raids are there for the entire playerbase to do. Just because some people either weren't skilled enough for coil, didn't have enough online time to join a static despite their skill, couldn't find a static looking for people and/or didn't know how to go about starting a static, or plain weren't interested in that type of dedicated raiding, doesn't mean it's right to equalize players of all of those categories as 'baddies'. And like I said earlier, those people aren't the only ones who enjoyed the CT raids.
To say that CT was just for 'bad people' is about as fair as it is to say that the people saying such things are the people who liked to go in there just to sabotage runs. Which I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want anyone to accuse you of, and then ignore any statement you make to the contrary?

[LunaHoshino]

Whatever you say just to feed your confirmation delusion.

Hi. I cleared the entirety of Coil before HW dropped, have farmed most of the turns many, many times, and was two pieces of gear away from being BiS pre-HW. Feel free to look at my Lodestone for proof if you'd like.

I still enjoy running the CT raids too, as do my other FCmates who have also cleared Coil (a bunch of whom are working on A2S and A3S right now). But I guess we all must secretly suck, because no one who has the skills to do Coil could possibly enjoy something less challenging, right?

[Mature]

Like I mentioned before I enjoyed all 3 ct raids and I would love to go thru them all over again so the only solution is to add a bonus roulette and add new recipes for crafting with mats that drop from them Raids.

[Evira]

I would like to see them rebalance this and coil for lvl 60 and create a raid roulette with all of the old raids. I know a lot of people has ran them enough before the expansion but a lot of new players would like to be able to experience the content.

[Nadirah]

Can we get back to the merits/detriments of the suggestions in this thread rather than bitching back and forth about what the original design of CT was, who is or is not a shitty player, or who's virtual peen is bigger?

Allowing unsynched groups I still think is the best option here because we don't really need another roulette, roulette bonuses for outdated content feels like bribery, especially considering that if you want to run it, you can queue for it already. People just don't want to do it.

Doing it unsynched gives those that actually want to bother with it the ability to muscle through it with the extra gear and abilities you get from leveling.

I'd also suggest adding the ability to do unsynched through duty finder rather than requiring a premade through PF, because face it, if you've tried to make a PF for it and can't... then there's just not enough folks on one realm wanting to do it.