CT is dead, please fix

[Adire]

be applied to this thread as well? Kinda weird to pull the "people don't know what they really want" card to try and support a thread about wanting something.

Huh O.o?

I'm pretty sure we (the people wanting CT to be relevant again) know what we want O.o.

Keeping old content relevant for old players is something SE has been doing for as long as I can remember, if we were indecisive about that formula, I'm sure we'd know by now.

[Malevicton]

Huh O.o?

I'm pretty sure we (the people wanting CT to be relevant again) know what we want O.o.

Keeping old content relevant for old players is something SE has been doing for as long as I can remember, if we were indecisive about that formula, I'm sure we'd know by now.

So people not knowing what they really want just applies to people who want things different from you? I think they're pretty confident as well :P

Old content really isn't relevant right now. High lvl/msq/lvling roulettes are only good for leveling, and they're not even good at that. Everything else you just have to do once for story, and if you were caught up you don't need em at all. How is 2.X content relevant right now? I haven't needed to do any of it since 3.0

Anyways, I already said I'd be fine with opening it up for undersized/unsynched. Why do you feel more than that is necessary?

[Adire]

So people not knowing what they really want just applies to people who want things different from you? :P

Old content really isn't relevant right now. High lvl/msq/lvling roulettes are only good for leveling, and they're not even good at that. Everything else you just have to do once for story, and if you were caught up you don't need em at all. How is 2.X content relevant right now?

Nope. You are taking my words out of context. Not even gonna bother posting anything more than this since it's obvious you're trying to spin my words :P

I will respond to this though. 2.X content is very relevant for leveling. Roulettes all give a nice chunk of experience each, the new relics will soon be out and will likely involve 2.x content.

I don't NEED to do the content, but I do enjoy the experience!

[Malevicton]

Nope. You are taking my words out of context. Not even gonna bother posting anything more than this since it's obvious you're trying to spin my words :P

Not really spinning your words... The term is "responding" but okay.

Anyone else wanna come up with a good reason that unsynched/undersized isn't good enough? Cause I'm fine with that :/

I just don't want to be farming 3.0 gear from 2.0 content.

I will respond to this though. 2.X content is very relevant for leveling. Roulettes all give a nice chunk of experience each, the new relics will soon be out and will likely involve 2.x content.

I don't NEED to do the content, but I do enjoy the experience!

It's not good exp, though. It's an option, but a hw dungeon is better xp than any of the roulettes

[Adire]

Not really spinning your words... The term is "responding" but okay.

If you were just "responding", you should know that your "response" didn't really address my post's context and points accurately, but okay.

You're silly if you think new players who think they want to gut most of the game without experiencing it won't run out of things to do sooner and complain about that if they had their way though.

If lots of people who are already at that point are doing it, what makes you think they wouldn't? I'm sure many would.

And the people wanting CT to be revived don't doubt wanting it. We've had pretty much FFXIV's entire lifetime to get to known the formula and figure out if we like it, and just want it to be applied to CT.

There's literally no reason for us to think we want it when we've had XIV's entire lifetime to get to know the effects. We know we want it.

It's not good exp, though. It's an option, but a hw dungeon is better xp than any of the roulettes

I disagree. I get very good experience from it, and it's partly why I've been able to level several jobs to 60 already without having the time to grind much.

And judging by the lack of complaints around the topic, especially vs FATEs at launch, and the quick queue times lately for me at least, I'd say the incentive is working as intended and is indeed worth it to many people.

Regardless, relics will soon make old content even more relevant. A healthy player base for all levels of content, it's a good thing.

[T2teddy]

Level 60s who post and say that old content like Crystal Tower is useless and nobody wants or needs to run it, are thinking solely in terms of BEING far above level 50. Of course you don't need to run the place. However that census indicated that pretty close to 65-70% of the player base is LESS than level 53 ish and could definitely use CT and other 'old content' to gear and level up with, since ya know, they haven't even got to the HW areas yet...
I swear, everywhere I go I'm tripping over people sporting green sprouts...

Story for you:
A few nights ago I queued for WoD because i needed the pearl for the weekly for a new class. 21 of the 24 were NEW and never done the place! LOL
You can imagine how much fun the Eyeball fight was :P
Me and one group's tank and another's WHM explained all the fights and we actually only wiped 4 times in the entire run. It was a lot of fun and most of the news all said they loved the place.

[Obysuca]

However that census indicated that pretty close to 65-70% of the player base is LESS than level 53 ish and could definitely use CT and other 'old content' to gear and level up with, since ya know, they haven't even got to the HW areas yet...

You again? I'll say it again since you probably didn't see it in the other topic. but the census doesn't show the population. It just showed the jobs leveled. You can have all 60s but 1 and that single one under 60 counts for the %. Last topic you were going on about lvl 41, now its 53 lol Same thing still applies. It's counting the jobs people leveled. So if someone either didn't like the job, didn't unlock it, was leveling it during the census or has no plans to finish leveling it, then those count for the under X level. Not the population.

You don't even have to do CT to "gear up" anymore. The game gives new players the i90 gear from their af quests now, so that skips over CT and from all the gil from the MSQ quest (about 300k or so), they can easily buy the i115 white gear off the market since they can't access Ishgard.

[Kajukai]

People asking for Savage ftw. Hard content with 24 people? Stop taking these lala drugs. /inbeforerage

[Chiramu]

I also love the glamour from these dungeons too, it would be nice to know you'll get a group for that too .

[Nutz]

We don't need it.

Find a group of likeminded people and run it unsynced.

Sorry this was pretty far back, but seriously, just find another 23 people who want to run this with/ for you? Given that there's no reward involved for the vast majority of people, sure, I bet that'll work out nicely.

Seriously though, I'd like to see them do something to not make CT and a few other areas completely unused, especially since new players may want to at least experience the story/ clear the quests and with no incentive for anyone else that's just very unlikely to happen.