CT is dead, please fix

[Dyvid]

You completely missed the point. CT is tedious enough to run back when it was still hot shit to farm gear and it's most likely to be more tedious when you want it to be relevant again. You teach people to do stuff, they're incompetent to comprehend simple mechanics and the fact that there are assholes pressing vote abandon every single wipe on simple shit like bone dragon, scylla and angra mainyu

NOPE. CRYSTAL TOWER NEVER AGAIN

You act like all the other raid content is better.

No, it shouldn't. Sorry.

Yes, it should. Good talk.

[Escha]

Better than CT that's for sure. CT was only made for people who were too bad for coil.

[seorin]

You completely missed the point. CT is tedious enough to run back when it was still hot shit to farm gear and it's most likely to be more tedious when you want it to be relevant again.

The opposite is true. It was tedious because you had to run it for gear and weapon upgrades. People felt forced to put up with it even if they were utterly sick of it, leading to a lot of trolling out of boredom.

Adding minor incentives now won't have the same effect. You can earn exp and tomestones in many different ways, so anyone who gets sick of CT can just do something else. Even if the new relic quest requires it, it'll still be easier (and more optional) than getting upgrade items for all your gear slots.

CT was only made for people who were too bad for coil.

Something tells me you were one of the people wiping groups on easy mechanics and then initiating vote abandon. Obvious troll, 3/10.

[fortuona]

towers were great just because it showed how wide the skill gap really is between players. one run you'd be done in just under 20minutes skipping phases on every boss, the next you'd have shout arguments and wipes and abandons left and right.

same thing happens in dungeons and trials, but it was a lot more entertaining with 23 other people.

[Nadirah]

... which is different from all of the other roulettes how? Do you really think most people would be running CM and Prae over and over just for the fun of it? No, they do it for the tomestones from Main Scenario Roulette.

Just admit that you have a personal hateboner for CT and stop trying to justify it with arguments that don't even make sense.

I don't do CM or Prae either. Poetics are useless anyway.

[Nadirah]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Raid content should always be relevant despite when it came out.

No, it shouldn't. Sorry.

[RyuRoots]

No, it shouldn't. Sorry.

A+ argument, 10/10, totally convinced me you're right. Truly, your debate skills are the stuff of legend, to be heralded in the forum for years to come.

Also you entirely missed the point on roulettes. That you don't do them is completely and utterly irrelevant. The point was that people run roulettes because of rewards, not because of which dungeons they cover. You could replace the Main Scenario Roulette with any other, and it's the same point (one you seem to go out of your way to not get).

[Astral145]

First off I would love to see all the 24 person raids relevant again. Even if they only put exp in them. I would love to grind all three 24 person raids each week to get 1 lvl 50 class to 51 and get a sweet iron works weapon as well to start off with in the lvl 51 dungeon. They could give 50k exp per boss and 3k off the trash mobs and if doing the weekly quest you get 100k exp per orb. That alone would keep the 24 person raids relevant for a long time.

Having the 24 person raids give exp would be awesome and would help to break up the grind from running dungeons and fate farming. I think 250k - 350k exp total per run would be fare and a daily roulette would be nice as well.

Another thing I wish the devs would do is once you hit 60 you can run the lvl 55 - 59 dungeons and all 24 person raids for law and eso's... 20 eso's and 50 law would be fare and would help give us more stuff to do besides pvp bizerk fest.

Even though the 24 person raids are old doesn't mean they are not fun. I ran ct well over 75+ times just for the tank chest (really bad luck with drops) for glamour and I still enjoy running it. Just because it's old doesn't mean there is no life left in it.

[Dimitrias]

Is the q times for ultima HM and Diablos really long? I still have those in quest journal and never tried to do those yet...

Oh and I still havn't done any of the ex primals. I basically whent throut main storyline accessed ishguard and started doing all HW content and sorta skiped over that stuff, maybe I need to go back and do that stuff.

[Nadirah]

If the incentive is too great people will feel obligated to run it to the point of tedium. If the incentive is "minor" then people still won't bother doing it enough to revive the queue times.

We need to accept that content can't stay relevant forever. Even if SE did "fix" CT by finding a way to force people to run it again it would only be a temporary solution. As soon as people stop chasing the newest carrot we'll be right back to complaining about long queue times on outdated content.

The only thing they should do is give us the option to Unsync it. Adding the CT Trio to the roulette or making it part of the 3.0 relic as ways to "fix" it are bad ideas for a multitude of reasons.

Thank you.

/10char