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    HolyGlassofWater's Avatar
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    Laurence Trublade
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    According to the survey, an equal number of people play the tank and healer roles

    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...1a1e3a201cd976

    Yet the "adventure in need" bonus for roulettes is for tanks 90-95% of the time. What makes people want to tank less in DF compared to healer? Sure being undergeared makes it harder to hold agro, but it also makes it harder to heal, especially if everybody is pulling EVERYTHING, or tanking the ground (AoEs)

    Sure people often expect you to be the leader, but this is often an advantage to many as well. Plus, you'll always have people that will happily take charge if you don't want to do it anyways. With the healer I always feel like I'm more bound to whatever the group wants to do. If you want to do this completely optional side room as a tank, I HIGHLY doubt anyone's going to stop you, or let you die (like they might if you were not the tank that pulled that room.

    Oh and level syncing to low level healer in the roulette is the worst, I can't think of anything more boring. While every job has this problem to some extent, At least tanks and DPS have at least 3 moves to use during a dungeon like satasha. The ONLY thing the healer is doing related to their role (which is healing), is spamming ONE FREAKIN BUTTON. Cure, Physick, benefic (depending on class). However, since you'll rarely be healing in these dungeons anyways, you're limited to your very exciting DPS moves, one instant DoT and that one 2.5 sec cast move they have (stone, ruin, malefic)
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    That isn't a population of what people actively play but what people have leveled. I also simply refuse to tank for a group of random people in the DF most of the time and I'm sure I'm not the only tank that does this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
    That isn't a population of what people actively play but what people have leveled. I also simply refuse to tank for a group of random people in the DF most of the time and I'm sure I'm not the only tank that does this.
    You've missed the point. My posts acknowledges exactly this, my post is asking WHY tanks aren't queing in the DF. It's already a given they aren't
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyGlassofWater View Post
    You've missed the point. My posts acknowledges exactly this, my post is asking WHY tanks aren't queing in the DF. It's already a given they aren't
    Because they know most people in DF are awful and don't want to put up with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyGlassofWater View Post
    You've missed the point. My posts acknowledges exactly this, my post is asking WHY tanks aren't queing in the DF. It's already a given they aren't
    Because the DF is a terrible environment and I have no shortage of friends I know won't blame me for something they screwed up or be completely terrible at thier job and waste my time.

    I have no need to use the DF to get my stuff done and sure as hell don't have a desire to use it either.
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    It is hard for me to trust DF healers when I tank dungeon since I've had horrible experiences while leveling up. If I'm feeling like it (or I'm really in a hurry and can't wait for a queue longer than 6-10 minutes) I can DF tank, but if I can help it I'd rather take charge and heal myself - it makes me feel safer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Because they know most people in DF are awful and don't want to put up with them.
    I can say the same thing for any other job I'm playing. The discussion question is why it's tanks moreso than other roles. There's a huge amount of pressure on the healer as well.
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    i give pretty much the same answer most already have, i just plainly refuse to run anything in this game with randoms, its just not worth it since there are so many bads in this game, and i dont feel like wasting my time

    Quote Originally Posted by HolyGlassofWater View Post
    I can say the same thing for any other job I'm playing. The discussion question is why it's tanks moreso than other roles. There's a huge amount of pressure on the healer as well.
    as for this, its probably because of the fact tanks are the center of attention for all content, everything runs based on how they are playing any particular duty, and thus get far more flak from the masses than any other classes do by far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyGlassofWater View Post
    You've missed the point. My posts acknowledges exactly this, my post is asking WHY tanks aren't queing in the DF. It's already a given they aren't
    Because of John Gabriel's Greater Internet F--kwad Theory.

    Anonymity + audience = total F--kwad.

    They'll never see me again, so why should I be polite, basically. Mommy didn't teach them manners, they'll never see you again, so being an asshole has no consequence.
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    Because if the tanks don't wear STR accessories, they will get called out, blamed and bad mouthed because making a dungeon run too long.
    One reason I stop playing a tank.
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