How likely is Alex savage to be nerfed.

[Khalithar]

Void Ark will drop i200.

I doubt it, but I guess we'll see. It doesn't make much difference to me either way. Also, I started the game 4 months ago.

[Evangela]

Savage shouldn't be nerfed, ever.

People will have better gears in the future updates, that will automatically makes these content easier.

[zosia]

Because, they have done it before and will continue their way.At release, the tome gear was out of the box max iLvl. The need for upgrading gear got introduced with SCoB first.

Continue to do so? This situation we have right now is unlike any situation in ARR. Will the greed of the masses ever end? We have this abysmal raiding situation because we needed a story mode raid. Now at least half of the raiding population has been alienated by the difficulty, and the other half, people who will get a4s clears, might not even manage to do that before people "need" 210 gear to feel accomplished. Will you guys not be happy until there is no end game for anyone and we just play some slot machine mini game for your epics?

This is not even a point about gear, this a point about progression. There will be several groups, mine included, who will be coming close to getting our a4s kill in early to mid October. I want to get my kill before people just get handed gear and it ruins my sense of accomplishment. It's like hiking a mountain to only find the last mile was a ride up an escalator.

Meh, doesn't matter. SE is shooting themselves in the foot.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...a_of_faceroll/

Check for yourself. Plenty of people are unhappy about the raiding scene. releasing twines in hunts before most raiders can get an a3s kill is a great way to alienate an already dissatisfied segment of the player base. Raiders might be a minority, but we still pay money, just like the rest of you guys, and 95% of the game is already catered to the casual player, why not let raiders just have a little more time to get some kills fist?

It gives people that farmed the 210 an advantage going in to the next content. I mean look at what happened, they brought the esoteric gear out before anyone could even get a full Alexander set. I'm quite certain that Ark is going to drop 210's or higher in addition to esoteric upgrade items.

void ark will indeed drop ilvl200 gear. It's been backwards like that since 2.1. All the 24 man raids in this game are like LFR in wow, except there is no harder version of them. They always drop loot that is 10 ilvls lower than the 8-man raid tier that came before it.

[seida]

What's the point in nerfing it? So you get get stronger gear to do... what exactly?

I haven't done savage, and to be honest I have little to no interest in doing it. I did all of Coil for the story, for the cool looking gear, for the interesting new bosses. Alex savage has none of those things. Well, the bosses are slightly different, but not enough for me to care. Doing NM so many times pretty much killed my interest.

The ONLY thing you get out of savage is stronger gear and a feeling of accomplishment. If it's nerfed, the former is pointless and the latter is basically gone.

[zosia]

What's the point in nerfing it? So you get get stronger gear to do... what exactly?

I haven't done savage, and to be honest I have little to no interest in doing it. I did all of Coil for the story, for the cool looking gear, for the interesting new bosses. Alex savage has none of those things. Well, the bosses are slightly different, but not enough for me to care. Doing NM so many times pretty much killed my interest.

The ONLY thing you get out of savage is stronger gear and a feeling of accomplishment. If it's nerfed, the former is pointless and the latter is basically gone.

3s and a4s are much different than the normal versions. They feel like entirely different fights in many of the phases. You should check it out, the fights can be really fun.

[Martin_Arcainess]

Woulndt make sense to nerf savage if there already a nerfed version call Alex normal. So I'm gonna say never.

[Gilraen]

I keep getting a vibe from the 'hardcore raiders' in this thread that speaks of the egos involved. So far they seem convinced that there will be a nerf, discounting the fact that there's already a 'nerfed' Alexander in the game. Almost as if to say, "But Normal Alexander doesn't count." Why not? Because it doesn't drop dyeable gear? Doesn't drop upgrade materials? Most 'casuals' are fine with this, I know I am and I have no intention of running Savage Alexander. Ever. I don't need the headache of trying to appease 'hardcore raiders'. I get all I can stand of that attitude from the rare dungeon malcontent. You can keep your Savage, Normal is enough for me. Most 'casuals' aren't in it for the gear, they are in it for fun and story.

[Colorful]

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While I do get your point about it undermining the efforts of hardcore players, SE needs to release something that'll keep people playing and gear progression is that for most. Void Ark gear will take 4-5 weeks to get, so I'm fine with them delaying the upgrade materials by a month. I have a feeling that you wouldn't be happy if they did that either though. I don't honestly care about ilvls or stats, just the ability to dye the gear, they can give us upgrade materials that just make it dyeable, or push it to ilvl 205 and I'd be fine with it still.

[zosia]

While I do get your point about it undermining the efforts of hardcore players, SE needs to release something that'll keep people playing and gear progression is that for most. Void Ark gear will take 4-5 weeks to get, so I'm fine with them delaying the upgrade materials by a month. I have a feeling that you wouldn't be happy if they did that either though. I don't honestly care about ilvls or stats, just the ability to dye the gear, they can give us upgrade materials that just make it dyeable, or push it to ilvl 205 and I'd be fine with it still.

I am fine with a month delay, more than happy with that sort of compromise. I will definitely have an a4s clear before halloween. I just want my kill before any "nerfs." At the end of the day, raiders really care about bragging rights with other raiders. I want to be able to keep up with my buddies in other statics, and we do, but we can only raid twice a week and not like five days a week that some of our friends do.

It's not that my static has players that are bad or unable to rise to the challenge, we just need more time since many on our team are also working full time jobs with families etc etc.

[Stupiduglytaru]

I hope it's not nerfed, savage isn't my current priority however it is still something I wish to do.

I wanted to try out jobs before I took to the challenge and pvp tbh is one of my main interests which was released at the same time.

Im now edging close to my second rank 50 gc and onces that done to savage i go, also orginally i wanted to be mch and geared towards that but after playing drk that's what I want to play and already have i190 gear plus esto weapon waiting for me when 60