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    Assize

    I'm sort of baffled by this, considering it's an all-in-one move.

    What's the best use for this? For damage or the "free" Medica? Or is it dependent on situation?

    I've used it both in and out of Cleric but I feel like I'm missing something every time I use it.
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    Totally dependent on the situation. I use it for both depending on the fight and if my party needs heals or not. Remember, it also gives an immediate 10% free MP restore, so sometimes you can use it just for that if you need MP (and get the heal or DPS as an extra).
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    It's very dependent on the situation. In an ideal world, you'd only ever use it in Cleric stance because a 300 potency attack (even on a single target) is very strong. But if you need a Medica and your MP is low/more damage is coming, then use Assize for the heal, there's no shame in using it for the heal.

    [EDIT] Be sure to use it whenever it's off cooldown, though.
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    Last edited by Selli; 09-10-2015 at 10:42 PM.

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    Indeed, that's sadly its design (until Squeenix makes its damage component scale with Mind too, haw haw). Choose between high damage or high healing depending on what's more useful for the situation, and live with no regrets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    Indeed, that's sadly its design (until Squeenix makes its damage component scale with Mind too, haw haw). Choose between high damage or high healing depending on what's more useful for the situation, and live with no regrets.
    Sadly? It gives WHMs a very powerful tool with flexibility. Look at Lightspeed and it's auto -25% damage. I'm thrilled I can choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Sadly? It gives WHMs a very powerful tool with flexibility. Look at Lightspeed and it's auto -25% damage. I'm thrilled I can choose.
    Oh, don't get me wrong, I still very much love Assize. I'm just commiserating with the OP on how I initially felt about it. I'm over the whole mild disappointment bit.

    I certainly wouldn't trade Assize away for drawing 7 Spires in a row!
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    Last edited by Raminax; 09-10-2015 at 04:43 PM.

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    It should always be used for dmg in fights that you don't expect to be running low on mp i.e. all dungeons and some raids.

    I want to point out that there are many add phases of dungeon bosses where this skill is really nice. For example, it will one shot adds during the bird boss in neverreap. You can kill fractal adds on the last boss with 1 holy + Assize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
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    To add on to what winsock said, you can also 1 shot the feathers of first boss Nevereap. What I typically do on large trash packs of adds: DS Regen + Asylum on tank -> Aero 3 if the adds will live for more than 20s -> Spam Holy Until around 50% MP -> Use Assize for the damage and MP. If you won't need to heal heavily I would dump more MP into Holy before Assize, but be prepared to use Shroud. You can really dish out tons of AoE DPS even with the way Holy works now. It's probably my favorite whitemage skill in the whole expansion.
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    One-shotting the feathers in Neverreap is my favorite use since ~NO ONE~ kills these danmed things and I hate debuffs.
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    Koromo Amae
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    trash pulls - CS on, give them hell
    easy bosses - see above
    easy bosses that spawn adds - wait for the adds, then see above
    hard bosses with much aoe dmg and bosses with hard mp management: use it for healing and/or mp-management
    i totally love this skill <3

    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    One-shotting the feathers in Neverreap is my favorite use since ~NO ONE~ kills these danmed things and I hate debuffs.
    i really love seeing the random dps run around aimlessly until they realize i oneshot the feathers already XD
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