What does Heavensward actually bring to the table as an expansion?

[SpookyGhost]

Answer to OP: Nothing. It is the same cookie cutter stuff. No variety of content

I see this discussion in lot of FB groups, gamefaqs, other forums, etc. It's not just a vocal minority methinks...

People quit in 2.0 for the exact same reasons people are complaining about now. Log in, cap tomes, raid, log out. The biggest problem is that they split the entire expansion up into parts, so we're not getting the whole expansion in one go - we're getting part 1 of 5 (assuming it'll work the same way as 2.0). This is really, really bad for any players that are actually playing now because we have such a limited amount of things to do. They expect us to use this patch to grind and that's it - grind endlessly and eventually you'll come upon 3.1, which will probably be another grind. Eventually, you accumulate enough content to actually log in daily and have fun, but what's the point in subbing at all for 3.0 once you've completed the main story? To grind for gear that will quickly be outdated in the next 2 patches? Is running the same 2 dungeons every single day fun, genuinely?

The only reason I remain subbed is because I raid with friends and we have a good time. Not because the raid is fun, but because it's something to do while we spend time together. If it weren't for that and my friends played other MMOs, I wouldn't be back here until 3.5 where I actually have a plethora of things to do. This is the case for most people who quit XIV and moved to WoW, Tera, etc. It's something no one who's still subbed to this game wants to accept, but it's the reality of things.

[Obysuca]

The biggest problem is that they split the entire expansion up into parts, so we're not getting the whole expansion in one go - we're getting part 1 of 5 (assuming it'll work the same way as 2.0). This is really, really bad for any players that are actually playing now because we have such a limited amount of things to do.

Can't find the post, but I was actually mentioning this back before HW release, how we'd only get a part of it, not the whole thing, and you should have seen the amount of people throwing fits and raging at me(someone even reported me for "being offensive" lol), because those people were like, "We're getting a ton of content when HW releases, not just parts". What did we get? Parts. Feels more like 1/2 of a part though, since only 2 dungeons and alex, the ex primals are kind of obsolete now and it hasn't even been another update.

[Deathscythe343]

People quit in 2.0 for the exact same reasons people are complaining about now. Log in, cap tomes, raid, log out.

This is one of the reasons why EQ's AA (Alternate Advancement) system was so loved by their players. It gave them numerous other options to improve their toons beyond just getting the current top end gear. It is a feature I have often wondered why is not included in newer MMOs.