The crafting grind

[DreameR7g]

The problem is how the grind is presented. Some grinds are great, some grinds aren't, and people using 'MMOs are grindy' as an argument really need to realize that.

It depends on perspective there. I find all the grinds just fine, myself. As far as the weekly lockouts, that is purposeful. 3.0 is bare bones of Heavensward so they have them to extend current content and its lifespan. Once the content patches come out (3.1, 3.2, etc.), it'll be more flavorful.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

They had to give crafting and gathering an endgame to work towards.

Yea I was surprised but excited that crafting was actually fairly difficult. you need a lot just to start getting scrips for both gatherer and crafter. If they make it super easy to make all the lvl 170 gear it would get boring really fast, not to mention you could just buy entire sets off the marketboard cheap and wouldn't need to craft at all. Which would defeat the point.

[Gilthas]

They had to give crafting and gathering an endgame to work towards. Otherwise, those who only focus on crafting/gathering would have no long term goal and no longer will keep playing the game.

The problem with this logic is that if you make everything grindy to keep the players that only want to do one thing, you end up losing the players that want to do multiple kinds of content.

FFXIV was a lot more fun for me before they added all this grind crap to DoL and DoH.

[Train88]

Are they even looking at crafting for a future patch?

[Marxam]

this grind killed crafting for me. I normally try to keep up with crafting and gathering but the token grind for more tokens is just redundant and boring to me. They could have made turn-ins more lore and fun related like carpenters need to turn in "..." to help fix some pillars in the Foundation. This obviously would have no effect on the world but doing something for people other than Rowena makes me feel like I'm making a difference. Right now all I feel is that she is a slave driver and is the npc equivalent to players who manipulate the MB on servers for gil.

[Train88]

I can understand crafting is endgame and is meant to last a long while. But the amount of effort is not raisonnable and could not have possibly been tested. And i mean the whole thing, crafting a set of hq, leveling to 60, crafting every single red script turn ins over 3 weeks for one item AND the 5900 rating turnin.

They have no idea what's happening with crafting and with 3.1, there will be little to no reason to level 2 star crafting. (new raids, better items, nothing for crafting.)

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

I understand your frustrated but I'm pretty sure they were not intending people to make all the 2star items within the first 2 months of the expansion. I'm not sure about your server but on Behemoth all the 1star gear you can buy off MB for 100K HQ. So about 1M for the whole HQ set. If they made 2star crafting easy like 1star crafting you would literally ding 60 and be fully equipped in 2star gear. And there would be nothing for you to craft because you would already own it. Not to mention you wouldn't make money because the market would be oversaturated.

I think for the people that actually have enough patience, the crafting system is actually really good. Best ive seen in any video game or MMO.

My advice would be to just take it slow. Don't burn yourself out and you'll get all the items you want eventually.

[Yukiko]

(..) they were not intending people to make all the 2star items within the first 2 months of the expansion. (..) Not to mention you wouldn't make money because the market would be oversaturated. (..)

For whom they design the system?
Look at Blizzards Diablo3 and the MB system, they had to completely delete it because its not working! Point.
Why not having a system for the players? What is wrong to gather for yourself and craft for yourself, why we are forced to use MB in the first place?
Good Luck to try and do all on your own (becomes interesting if you go deeper with the desynth system)

[Train88]

It's not fun. Leveling crafting and all. Because of that i am forced to adopt a behavior i don't like and "play the game the right way" meaning farm raids.

[Kotemon]

I never bothered, the max Materia melds weres to expensive anyway. With 3.0 I did both miner and botanist to get full sets to wear to make gathering easier. Right now I've bought most of my lv 52~55 craft gear and lucked out crafting some HQ mythrite tools. I probably can do crafts above 1 star now , but I need a better rotation for HQ. If you had the blue gear the climb would have been easier to craft HQ for lv +52. Right now the only thing to really work for aside from scripts, are the master craft recipes . Eitherway if the lv 51 ~60 Crafting quests are anything like Gathering's. You'd get gear and some of the tools to start you off. Although due to the limitation of mistletoe and tea leaves, among others. Its cheaper to buy Holy gear sets from the vender than AH Even the HQ is a bit overpriced due to the time investment on some ingredients. (you'll more likely outgrow it before you can convert or desynth it)