The crafting grind

[Yukiko]

(..) just to make greedy players happy and a MB with inflated prices. (..)

From what we hear is that they are doing it on purpose! (Live Letter when he talks about droprate of pets)
SE is listening to the wrong players! Grinding isnt the problem, but lockouts are a pig part of it.
We have not only gear lockout, but also materia lockout and materials lockout including time lockout and even weather lockout... not to mention the weekly cap!
There are way too many restrictions for a SINGLE piece... Dont forget RNG and running around to find spots...

[Gilthas]

They had to give crafting and gathering an endgame to work towards. Otherwise, those who only focus on crafting/gathering would have no long term goal and no longer will keep playing the game.

The problem with this logic is that if you make everything grindy to keep the players that only want to do one thing, you end up losing the players that want to do multiple kinds of content.

FFXIV was a lot more fun for me before they added all this grind crap to DoL and DoH.

[Train88]

I can understand crafting is endgame and is meant to last a long while. But the amount of effort is not raisonnable and could not have possibly been tested. And i mean the whole thing, crafting a set of hq, leveling to 60, crafting every single red script turn ins over 3 weeks for one item AND the 5900 rating turnin.

They have no idea what's happening with crafting and with 3.1, there will be little to no reason to level 2 star crafting. (new raids, better items, nothing for crafting.)

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

I understand your frustrated but I'm pretty sure they were not intending people to make all the 2star items within the first 2 months of the expansion. I'm not sure about your server but on Behemoth all the 1star gear you can buy off MB for 100K HQ. So about 1M for the whole HQ set. If they made 2star crafting easy like 1star crafting you would literally ding 60 and be fully equipped in 2star gear. And there would be nothing for you to craft because you would already own it. Not to mention you wouldn't make money because the market would be oversaturated.

I think for the people that actually have enough patience, the crafting system is actually really good. Best ive seen in any video game or MMO.

My advice would be to just take it slow. Don't burn yourself out and you'll get all the items you want eventually.

[Train88]

It's not fun. Leveling crafting and all. Because of that i am forced to adopt a behavior i don't like and "play the game the right way" meaning farm raids.

[Yukiko]

(..) they were not intending people to make all the 2star items within the first 2 months of the expansion. (..) Not to mention you wouldn't make money because the market would be oversaturated. (..)

For whom they design the system?
Look at Blizzards Diablo3 and the MB system, they had to completely delete it because its not working! Point.
Why not having a system for the players? What is wrong to gather for yourself and craft for yourself, why we are forced to use MB in the first place?
Good Luck to try and do all on your own (becomes interesting if you go deeper with the desynth system)

[Kotemon]

I never bothered, the max Materia melds weres to expensive anyway. With 3.0 I did both miner and botanist to get full sets to wear to make gathering easier. Right now I've bought most of my lv 52~55 craft gear and lucked out crafting some HQ mythrite tools. I probably can do crafts above 1 star now , but I need a better rotation for HQ. If you had the blue gear the climb would have been easier to craft HQ for lv +52. Right now the only thing to really work for aside from scripts, are the master craft recipes . Eitherway if the lv 51 ~60 Crafting quests are anything like Gathering's. You'd get gear and some of the tools to start you off. Although due to the limitation of mistletoe and tea leaves, among others. Its cheaper to buy Holy gear sets from the vender than AH Even the HQ is a bit overpriced due to the time investment on some ingredients. (you'll more likely outgrow it before you can convert or desynth it)

[Snolily]

Check out Kalifas Artexas crafting ideas, he mentioned in one of his posts about a couple of crafting games that would be fun, one of them was based off of Guy's grocery games, if you haven't seen that show you definitely should to see what he's talking about. Doesn't necessarily have to be with just cooking. Anyways my fiance and I have been grinding all the crafts to 50 and the most tedious thing I've noticed is farming farming farming crystals(shards) like 3 days in a row for me at a time. Also as you get higher you have to go out and farm this and farm that etc.... But with the GP it goes down real quick and takes forever to fill back up. When I need to use actions to help with crafting and then i'm waiting very slowly for it to regain again that is tedious in itself.

[Mature]

I think is a bad idea involving red scrips to make 2stars lvl60 gear. Because the grind is collosal and you are only limited to some per week. Something that not even artisan stuff went thru!

Blue scrip should be part of making high lvl gear and not red scrips. If we looking for a quick solution.

The other solution is to make reset red scrips daily. Like ixali quests for ehcanti stuff. So that MB can flow. Right now is a right nightmare if you ask me.

[Adrasteia]

They should also probably just replace Byregot's Brow with Byregot's Blessing across every class and give Carpenters something different. Making Reclaim baseline would help a ton, too. Having to pump out an extra 5-10 collectables every week because Hasty Touch decided to give you the finger five times in a row and you didn't have Reclaim isn't a good deal, to be honest. It'd make it easier for someone to just pick up a single crafting class and go after red scrips without having to do so much leveling for other crafting classes.