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    What actions would Scholar have if it were seperated from Arcanist?

    Let's come up with some craziness. Here are the guidelines:

    1) The job would theoretically start from level 30 like the 3.0 jobs and unlocked once you complete the level 30 arcanist class quest while meeting sch's current class requirements.
    2) Certain actions/traits are imported from arcanist to sch leaving arcanist with new actions tailored more towards acn/smn while leaving a lot of room for new sch actions (thus this thread)
    3) Since codex seem to be treated as a sch only book and Grimoire for acn/smn, it only seems fitting to conceptualize scholar as an "extra job" with its own "unique weapon."

    Job Actions:
    Lv 1
    2
    4 Physick, Eos (Formerly Summon I)
    6
    8
    10
    12
    15 Selene (Formerly Summon II)
    18
    22 Resurrection
    26
    30
    34 Eye for an Eye
    38
    42 Rouse
    46
    50

    Job Traits:
    8
    14 Enhanced Mind I
    16 Enhanced Mind II
    20
    24
    28
    32 Enhanced Mind III
    36
    40
    44 Ehanced Eye for an Eye
    48 Enhanced Rouse

    Oh, and 4) The existing actions for sch only would also have to be adjusted for lack of an aetherflow. May I suggest a raised mp cost or a new submechanic?
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    Last edited by Antanias; 09-09-2015 at 12:08 PM. Reason: Forgot enhanced mind III
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    Hmmm, let's take a page out of 1.0 Thaumaturge's book.

    Level 2: Dia
    Level 26: Dia II

    Basically the "light" version of Bio from acn/smn, dealing unaspected damage to a single target. Unoriginal, I know...but a start :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
    Hmmm, let's take a page out of 1.0 Thaumaturge's book.

    Level 2: Dia
    Level 26: Dia II

    Basically the "light" version of Bio from acn/smn, dealing unaspected damage to a single target. Unoriginal, I know...but a start :3
    This sounds cool but it would trip me up so bad...
    (Dia spells from SMT = healing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    This sounds cool but it would trip me up so bad...
    (Dia spells from SMT = healing)
    <3 smt too
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    dont forget sustain - kinda important to have this or something like it.
    18 Sustain
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    Getting Eos at such a low level would require all the 30+ job quests to be completely rewritten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Getting Eos at such a low level would require all the 30+ job quests to be completely rewritten.
    He's suggesting it be a 30+ job. So you'd be getting Eos at level 30, just like we used to, and can use it when we level sync down to that level, just like we used to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChazNatlo View Post
    He's suggesting it be a 30+ job. So you'd be getting Eos at level 30, just like we used to, and can use it when we level sync down to that level, just like we used to.
    That was exactly my thought process, and how could I forget potential Physick II / III?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
    That was exactly my thought process, and how could I forget potential Physick II / III?
    True, as a genuinely dedicated healer Scholar will be very potent. But that's not really what people 'love' about Scholar. What they like is how Scholar can, at the flip of a stance, become a DD that also heals. Take away arcanist and that ceases to be. We know this will be the case just by looking at White Mage and Astrologian. Sure, they have some attack spells but no where near the same amount as an arcanist-based Scholar. I'm not really sure people genuinely think about what they ask for sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    True, as a genuinely dedicated healer Scholar will be very potent. But that's not really what people 'love' about Scholar. What they like is how Scholar can, at the flip of a stance, become a DD that also heals. Take away arcanist and that ceases to be. We know this will be the case just by looking at White Mage and Astrologian. Sure, they have some attack spells but no where near the same amount as an arcanist-based Scholar. I'm not really sure people genuinely think about what they ask for sometimes.
    True, but who says DD spells can't be added? Could do more than just Dia/Dia II and add some offensive abilities as well as an action that boosts magic damage (would stack with cleric stance).
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