Thread: DEV REQUEST: Can we have 5 man dung / 10 man raids in 4.0?

if they increased the amount of dps slots per run they would have to compensate by adding more mobs so as to prevent face rolling the trash. i personally would not want to tank/ heal with this compensation. sure we can over pull now, but an implementation like this would prevent this, dragging dungeons on forever. add a few dps who refuse to use skills like straight shot, heavy thrust or spam umbral spells (i've run into countless lazy, begging to be carried dps). now the stronger mobs, with smaller pulls are taking forever to die. i can only speak for myself when i say there'd be 1 less tank in DF. get my new content clears then cap tomes in pvp

Originally Posted by Kolaina

if they increased the amount of dps slots per run they would have to compensate by adding more mobs so as to prevent face rolling the trash. i personally would not want to tank/ heal with this compensation. sure we can over pull now, but an implementation like this would prevent this, dragging dungeons on forever. add a few dps who refuse to use skills like straight shot, heavy thrust or spam umbral spells (i've run into countless lazy, begging to be carried dps). now the stronger mobs, with smaller pulls are taking forever to die. i can only speak for myself when i say there'd be 1 less tank in DF. get my new content clears then cap tomes in pvp

This is all easily adjustable, the pulls don't have to be harder, it could be as simple as scaling hp up according to the party dps increase and nothing more as far as trash goes..

Originally Posted by Pibz

This is all easily adjustable, the pulls don't have to be harder, it could be as simple as scaling hp up according to the party dps increase and nothing more as far as trash goes..

and how do you measure this scaling accordingly considering you have superb players and less than mediocre players both using the DF? the superb players filling the dps roles will make noticeably little change or make it face roll content. but you get 3 less than adequate dps or people who dont care to try and it can get strenuous on the healer due to longer duration encounters or detrimental on tank tp as they compensate where the dps lack with lack of regenerative skills to replenish their pool.
to elaborate on the healer part. ive done runs as whm where its no sweat, maybe presence of mind or whatever. but when the dps are slacking, and my buffs run out and everythings still alive it turns into cure 2 bombing. would only be worse with scaled hp

This really won't fix anything. You could have 102-man parties with just one DPS and one healer, and DPS queues would still suck :P

Originally Posted by Kolaina

and how do you measure this scaling accordingly

Same way they scaled the current dungeons. Presumably SE has some folk who are somewhat competent at math.

I'm down for 16 man high end raids.

Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

i'd rather have 6 man parties and 24 person raids.

yes and 4 person raids please with no stupid lockout restrictions that prevent others from helping >=O

While we're at it, how about we make it where the whole server is doing the dungeon? JK, no I think 4 man dungeon is fine because as stated above, more slots for DPS will just mean more people who could be playing tank or healer, will be playing DPS instead. While load times for dungeons have gotten better, they could still be shorter sometimes and this would not help.