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    DEV REQUEST: Can we have 5 man dung / 10 man raids in 4.0?

    Given the census of 20% tanks, 20% heals, and 60% dps. More dps jobs being added. In order to alleviate wait times for dps and the threat of job homogenization- I think expanding the size of dungeons/ raids going forward will alleviate these issues?

    what do you guys think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzraelX View Post
    will alleviate these issues?
    This assumes that the people currently playing tanks/healers will stay with those jobs. This is a bad assumption to make.

    The increase in dps slots will make some tanks/healers gravitate towards dps.

    The end result is that the queue times will stay the same, but the tank/healer/dps ratio worsens, which in turn also affects pf groups and statics who are recruiting tanks/healers.

    So no, increasing dps slots wont be an improvement, and will be a detriment instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzraelX View Post
    Given the census of 20% tanks, 20% heals, and 60% dps. More dps jobs being added. In order to alleviate wait times for dps and the threat of job homogenization- I think expanding the size of dungeons/ raids going forward will alleviate these issues?

    what do you guys think?
    I suspect that on the software and balancing side of things, such a change is probably not easy to do, particularly if they have to retrofit all the old content to get the system to work, which includes balancing encounter (as an extra dps means mechanics and enemy resilience has to be adjusted as does the damage that is done to not just place more load on group healers).

    I think there would be little gain for a fair amount of effort.
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    i'd rather have 6 man parties and 24 person raids.
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    there is no issue to fix
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    When life gives you lemons, cry yourself to sleep, and tell all your friends.

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    Am I the only to laugh at 5 man "dung"?
    Seriously people, choose your abbreviations better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    i'd rather have 6 man parties and 24 person raids.
    And I can only pray they never listen to anything you ever suggest.
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    Just what we need, more DDs to stand in AOEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Just what we need, more DDs to stand in AOEs.
    Or more DDs to not know their rotation, perform poorly with disgustingly low DPS... AND get carried by the other 1 or 2 DPS that know their stuff
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    LOL @ "5 man dung"
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