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    Can we get CT roulette or 1 party version?

    Hello,
    almost every content is still somehow doable via DF, but the CT is starting to fall behind a lot.

    Can we maybe get a roulette (that many people suggested already, it is not my invention) or 1 party version? The reason for request is simple, glamour, minions and easier access for new players.

    Thanks in advance!

    EDIT: Another option that would be nice combo together with roulette:
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    A thought that comes to mind perhaps a daily where you get a token, and a weekly where you get 3 tokens for doing all three. These tokens could be exchanged for items that are normally found within tower such as Triple Triad card, furniture material, minions, gear and maybe new unique items. With this incentive there would be a renewed reason to do it since say if someone wanted the Cloud of Darkness Minion but the odds of getting a lot of groups to do x dungeon is low, they could instead obtain tokens to exchange for it, let's say that maybe it takes 10 tokens to obtain it aka 1 weeks worth of tokens....
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    I don't think a roulette is suitable, since it's only three instances anyways you could just queue for each of the three. And it might lead to you never seeing some of them, which for some people looking to do these for the quest completion and achievements would lead to them quickly getting bored.

    Allowing for undersized I think would be enough for anything between 1 and 24 people preformed and uncapped. You'd still have chances at all the drops considering how they spawn and what undersized allows/disallows. I assume a full party of L60 would be able to clear as fast as an alliance of L50, with maybe some modifications to approaching certain mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashmin View Post
    I don't think a roulette is suitable, since it's only three instances anyways you could just queue for each of the three. And it might lead to you never seeing some of them, which for some people looking to do these for the quest completion and achievements would lead to them quickly getting bored.
    MSQ only has 2 dungeons, so the lack of content isn't the best reason against it, especially when future 24 man raids could be added when they're dated. As for never seeing some of them, could you explain? From my understanding, the roulette finds content someone's queuing for, and puts you into that content. Its purpose is to populate that content so new players can experience it. Besides, people rarely ever queue for it now, the chances of them seeing the raids if a roulette is introduced is infinitely higher than it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    MSQ only has 2 dungeons, so the lack of content isn't the best reason against it, especially when future 24 man raids could be added when they're dated. As for never seeing some of them, could you explain? From my understanding, the roulette finds content someone's queuing for, and puts you into that content. Its purpose is to populate that content so new players can experience it. Besides, people rarely ever queue for it now, the chances of them seeing the raids if a roulette is introduced is infinitely higher than it is now.
    Plus if there was daily bonus of atleast 60 eso or even more (waiting time is long, the raid itself is long too, it has to be atleat on par with expert in my opinion) it would make CT, ST, WoD and Void Ark in future much easier to get into.
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    I'd prefer undersized to a roulette. It doesn't gate anything, so it doesn't need a roulette like msq/trial. I'd rather not farm 2.X content for 3.X gear as much as possible.

    Really people only need it for glamour/minion/for kicks, and undersized can do all those things. New players don't need it unless they fall into one of the other categories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    New players don't need it unless they fall into one of the other categories.
    Well there is the story, and experiencing it in a way as close as possible to the original way it was done. I know if I was a new player I'd rather play through it at level 50, and actually have to perform some mechanics. Why not both though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    I'd prefer undersized to a roulette. It doesn't gate anything, so it doesn't need a roulette like msq/trial. I'd rather not farm 2.X content for 3.X gear as much as possible.

    Really people only need it for glamour/minion/for kicks, and undersized can do all those things. New players don't need it unless they fall into one of the other categories.
    Well you wouldn't have to farm it. You would be able to do your esoterics cap the way you do it now, it would only offer new ways to other people who don't mind running old 24mans. There is no gating included in roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Well there is the story, and experiencing it in a way as close as possible to the original way it was done. I know if I was a new player I'd rather play through it at level 50, and actually have to perform some mechanics. Why not both though?
    Well, because this isn't a single player game. To be blunt, the lvl 50 experience of CT doesn't exist anymore. That experience required 23 other people of similar level and gear. Making it a roulette wouldn't do that.

    That wasn't really what I meant anyways, though. People were comparing it to msq/trial roulette, which contains things you actually need in order to continue the game. You don't need ct for anything but ct. If new players want to do ct, that's one thing, but they'll never need it. Really what you're describing just falls into the "for kicks" category anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Well you wouldn't have to farm it. You would be able to do your esoterics cap the way you do it now, it would only offer new ways to other people who don't mind running old 24mans. There is no gating included in roulette.
    I really don't think anyone's gonna run it unless the rewards are pretty solid. At which point it's still not required, but you're shooting yourself in the foot by not doing it, and your other avenues of farming would lose their population. I know there were people that really liked CT, but in general it wasn't very well liked.

    My main problem is just that I don't want to be backtracking on content. I'd rather the focus be on heavensward content to get things in heavensward. I'm not against people being able to do ct, but I feel like allowing undersized parties would accomplish that just fine. Adding incentives would be overkill.
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    Don't forget that to join undersized you would still have to make an undersized alliance which would take hours even on populated server.

    If they added ability to enter in undersized party via DF, it might be abused and people would join as 1 tank, 1 heal and maybe fail the raid.

    Only undersized possibility would be if they completely remade the 24man to be doable in 1 party, which would take a lot of effort compared to just adding it into roulette.

    EDIT: I accept your opinions, I am just trying to come out with the easiest to add plus the most efficient way to implement my request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Only undersized possibility would be if they completely remade the 24man to be doable in 1 party, which would take a lot of effort compared to just adding it into roulette.
    That's pretty much how I'm imagining it. I don't see why that'd be so much harder. They just have to let you q as a party, they don't need to make any other adjustments. I don't think there are any mechanics that would require more than maybe 5 people at level 60. "Completely remade" feels like a bit of a stretch.
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