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    Quote Originally Posted by Windklinge View Post
    who came up with that idea?
    Every MMO that has existed... Of course, they don't allow a cheating loophole like the tournament, which is truly the crux of the problem here. If it was a grind but everyone was basically treated the same then there'd be no complaints -- well, I should say they'd be individual complaints and the rest of us would just shrug and say 'it's their life' etc. etc. There wouldn't be this up cry of calling foul.

    The other problem is that the loophole is so hugely profitable. Is there anything besides the weekly and daily lottery that can give as much MGP as the tourney does? I make around 14k MGP with just the NPCs. I'm sure the top people get a ton more plus the cards to turn in.

    They should make a separate in-game function for TT where you queue up for random matches and move the tournament there. That would fix this.
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    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Maybe they could fix it like this. (Of course the loud people who would be against this are the cheaters so we can ignore their responses.)

    Make challenging players in the tournament only accessible by a duty finder like set up.

    This would stop the cheating because it will be a random set up on your server for people looking for opponents in the tournament.
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    Tournaments just need some kind of roulette system where you are pitted against a random opponent, along with no ability to chat or send tells. Hell, your character model doesn't even need to be shown, just maybe your name, current win/streak and points earned upon winning, then straight into the match.

    You may run into a LS mate, but those matches would be (or at least I hope) few and far in between. At least for me, I won't even bother with another tournament unless a massive overhaul on them is done, or a friend wants to have a ACTUAL match for their tournament.
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    What I don't get about all this is that here in the West, the one thing we hear about Japan is that its population care A LOT about honor. We have seen over and over that the one thing that matters to a Japanese man is his honor and reputation.

    And yet in this game, made in Japan, the only realistic way of winning a tournament ( http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tournament for the argumentative about real world rules ...) is to cheat more than everyone else? What went wrong there?
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    They do generally care more about honor. It's just that there, ime, finding an exploit, a backdoor or any sort of way to manipulate a game as released (without using actual cheating software) is not considered cheating at all. It's simply a mark of being in the know and finding ways to beat the system. Think of it as just a game within a game to find the cracks in the game logic and get things done faster/better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeraLure View Post
    They do generally care more about honor. It's just that there, ime, finding an exploit, a backdoor or any sort of way to manipulate a game as released (without using actual cheating software) is not considered cheating at all. It's simply a mark of being in the know and finding ways to beat the system. Think of it as just a game within a game to find the cracks in the game logic and get things done faster/better.
    Japanese culture has westernized heavily and pretty much everything we're told about their past etc is different now. Like the whole no stabbing with chopsticks, or even the decline of use with chopsticks in Japan (swapping to fork etc). Our preconceptions are about as accurate as "Westernboo's" conception of the united states still being the wild west haha.

    Limiting plays to certain players might work.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Not to mention the rewards suck. Why bother struggling to reach the top 20 and get 5K to 10K MGP tops every 2 weeks when I can make almost the same amount weekly/daily from the mini-cactpot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Not to mention the rewards suck. Why bother struggling to reach the top 20 and get 5K to 10K MGP tops every 2 weeks when I can make almost the same amount weekly/daily from the mini-cactpot?
    Because of the platinum card packs and the chances for the tournament-only cards they carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Not to mention the rewards suck. Why bother struggling to reach the top 20 and get 5K to 10K MGP tops every 2 weeks when I can make almost the same amount weekly/daily from the mini-cactpot?
    The packs that you get make it worth it. For me, anyway. Got Nana this past tourney. Saved me 400k.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Cards don't interest me that much anymore. I'm saving up for the mounts.
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