[Suggestion] Make Stone II and Stone III into the same skill.

[Sida]

I don't want them traited. I want to be able to choose which version of the spell to cast. While Stone III is fairly reasonable, things like Ruin III, it less than doubles the potency (80->120) but the cost is near six times of Ruin. They both have their uses.

[deos]

things like Ruin III, it less than doubles the potency (80->120) but the cost is near six times of Ruin

fyi: while in dreadwyrm trance, the mp cost of ruin III gets reduced to the same cost as ruin I, thats why you only use ruin III while in dreadwyrm.
to be honest, dreadwyrm should have increased dmg of ruin I instead of creating a new skill for it that you can/should only use while in dreadwyrm...

also btw, stone II has a slightly worse dps-per-mp value than the I and III

[Sida]

Mm, pretty sure I don't yet have anything called Dreadwyrm. I belive what you say about it though. But as of the moment, force replacing my Ruin I with III would be unreasonable which was my point towards this thread in general.

Apart from mechanic point of view though, as for my opinion, I also like to have the separate spells just because that's one less of things the game plays for me. I'm annoyed with some games that have gone with the automation to a point the game pretty much whacks you with "this is the one and only correct way to play" hammer.

[deos]

Mm, pretty sure I don't yet have anything called Dreadwyrm. I belive what you say about it though. But as of the moment, force replacing my Ruin I with III would be unreasonable which was my point towards this thread in general.

you get dreadwyrm several level after ruin III, which is kind of dump to be honest, since you cant really use ruin III until then...

Apart from mechanic point of view though, as for my opinion, I also like to have the separate spells just because that's one less of things the game plays for me. I'm annoyed with some games that have gone with the automation to a point the game pretty much whacks you with "this is the one and only correct way to play" hammer.

completely true, but when you add some makros you get to 3-4 full bars of skills, which can be overwhelming for some ppl
and then there is the fact that there is literally no reason to ever cast stone II after you got stone III (unless you are synced down), which is the reason for this thread
i really love the fact that even lvl 1 skills are still relevant in endgame though, many games fail hard at this and make all early lvl skills useless in endgame

[Raso]

It really kinda needs to happen before the next xpac, seriously skill bloat is already a problem as is can you imagine with another 5 or so skills cluttering up your bars...

[Noxifer]

I agree to a point, though while having about three levels of spells, what happened to our old time favourites. I'd like to see Cure, Cura, Curaga, Fire, Fira, Firaga etc. in the spirit of the old games ^^ True, it's not much more original than the numbers but it's something I'm used to.

Actually... I've heard the English client is the only one that uses the Cure, Cure 2 and Cure 3 pattern. Other clients use the Cure, Cura and Curaga pattern =/ I've heard people state the reason for the I/II/III names to be because they thought it would be too confusing for players.... Well, if that's so, I guess I'd just have to say, "Thanks for the vote of confidence, SE/Localization Team."

Mm, pretty sure I don't yet have anything called Dreadwyrm.

Dreadwyrm Trance is the SMN Lv58 quest reward =)

[Raso]

I wish there was an option to switch to the real names of the spells like Curaga.

[Fevelle]

I wish there was an option to switch to the real names of the spells like Curaga.

PRETTY PLEASE SE!

[Sida]

On related note, I heard other language clients have 24 hour clock, it's only the English client that forces the am/pm nonsense. Can't we have "international" client apart from the one that was meant for pure English countries.

[Zolvolt]

I am all for traits that turn previous versions of Stone, Maelfic, What-have-you, into the higher ranked versions. Saves button space and is a QoL improvement for level syncing