Parsers and Problems

[sirDarts]

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I find it very funny that you are still avoiding one of the main questions:
WHY are DPS allowed to play like shit, while tanks and healers are not?

[Astral145]

What the devs should implement instead is an individual parser. DCUO (F2P btw) finally implemented an individual parser a few months ago. What the devs did was use the chat battle log to show you the Damage Per Second, crit %'s, highest hit and total damage done in a set amount of time. The best part was you could set the time you want to see your current parser like every 30 secs, 60 secs or when you stopped doing battle during down time. This allowed each individual to set goals and see how they were contributing to the fight.

By using the chat battle log as a parser would allow the devs to implement this to all platforms ps3, ps4, pc...ect. PS3 and PS4 players did not suffer through any issues regarding this type of parser on DCUO so there is no reason as to why the FFXIV devs couldn't implement this into FFXIV

I haven't heard of any negative feed backs on the DCUO forums regarding the new parsers. All I read were praises and how thankful the community was for what the devs did.

[shape]

First things first this whole parser topic is going in circles, should a parser be allowed in game. YES, should it be banned in DF.YES, we are not like the Japanese who use that it for actually clearing content.
If you sign up for DF you take what group you put with unless they are Aholes/or totally unable to complete the dungeon, no there too slow or OMFG 1 wipe (man the fuck up)

All the people saying please SE do not implement in game Parser, I got news for you most of us already use them and they are a vital tool for progression and perfecting rotations, you need data to work/theory craft.
People are already substituting parser for insane demands on PF, that or some just plain nasty comments added to the req( no shit people etc, yes this is actually quite common).

The majority of us who want a parser are sick and fucking tired of joining PF groups for Rav EX (as an example) to get people pulling far less dmg then req and wiping, usually ends in disbanding.

I tank so I also agree why do DD have no way to track their performance, if me or the healer mess up, its clear as day we should be able to see who is amazing,good,bad. By the way tanks,
especially warrior are expected to pull DPS as well, thank god for ACT.

[Waliel]

Yes if a person is running into monsters not fighting right or trolling yeah I agree kick, though if a person is dodging fine and you all are dying and you guys say well you arent helping dps is too low thats why I die then you are in the wrong.

The way you say this makes it sound like your DPS is so bad, you're doing less than dead people. Anyway, if everyone kept constantly dying to avoidable damage, you're maybe better off leaving the group; if everyone kept dying to unavoidable damage, it's more than likely the healers' fault then.

Oh and about the snakes, like I said why would you need a program to win the fight that's my question to you.

I am pretty sure people have done it perfectly without it, whats the problem that you need this tool so bad or you can't do it without it or something?

Stop evading the question. The parser alone has not and never will win you the fight, becuase it can't do that -- parsers can't play the game for you. If they could, it would be botting, and before you even go there, parsers and botting have about as much in common as you getting a haircut and your neighbour deciding to eat meatballs that day.

It's nothing but the data in your combat log. You could theoretically do all that parser is doing with pen and paper, but it would take forever.

[Odett]

The way you say this makes it sound like your DPS is so bad, you're doing less than dead people

He could be, if he keeps rocking 2 strength accessories, 2 vit accessories, and a dex accessory

[sirDarts]

He could be, if he keeps rocking 2 strength accessories, 2 vit accessories, and a dex accessory

Good thing left side is mostly class-locked. I would not want to see what he would come up with there. O.o

[Tyrial]

Good thing left side is mostly class-locked. I would not want to see what he would come up with there. O.o

But...but...it's his $15! He can play how he wants! XD

This debate is never going to end until SE finally steps in, just like the STR vs VIT debate going on with tanks currently.

We definitely need an ingame parser or to have third party ones officially sanctioned. As others have said, there's no reason for tanks and healers to be held to certain standards but DPS get a free ride.

[ShanaShirayuki]

But...but...it's his $15! He can play how he wants! XD

This debate is never going to end until SE finally steps in, just like the STR vs VIT debate going on with tanks currently.

We definitely need an ingame parser or to have third party ones officially sanctioned. As others have said, there's no reason for tanks and healers to be held to certain standards but DPS get a free ride.

Not to mention it isn't fair for console players to rely on their PC comrades to show them their numbers.

[jumanjilover89]

He could be, if he keeps rocking 2 strength accessories, 2 vit accessories, and a dex accessory

Lol the real kicker is that dragoon is his only 60 so he intentionally bought those tank law earrings

[Eylirria]

You all got trolled for a hundred replies.
At least that's what I choose to believe in.

In any case, since you all managed to chase it away...

If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend people aren't parsing, you can do that.
Just don't act surprised when a lot of others ARE doing it, and ARE vote-kicking people.

Because it happens already, and it will continue happening.