Parsers and Problems

[Ashkendor]

I've seen it first hand in party's, where someone say's they are using a parser that the person is being out damaged but the fights are doing okay and this person begins battering the person putting them down talking mad crap until the other one defends himself and says, we are doing a good job and then they get kicked?

Sounds almost like you are trying to make parser sound great for the game and maybe that's not how you use it but other's do and by your logic its okay because you don't use it like that.

Parsers would be great for the game for a lot of reasons that people have already explained, but you seem unwilling to listen.

I'm sorry that you've had such awful experiences, in any case.

Its not that I am attacking, its telling you what I've experienced from people using those parser's.

Again the next time I am in a party and notice I am going to bring that here to show you how people use the parser's then we'll talk about baseless claims. I'll snap a photo or record it on my ps4 and slap it on youtube.

And that proves exactly what? A parser doesn't make you an asshole, but unfortunately assholes can use parsers like the rest of us.

Multiple people have said that multiple times across multiple posts now.

You know what I think, I think you are trying to convince SE that nobody uses the tool wrong that because you use it the correct way others do also.

I think that you're trying to convince SE that since a few people use the tool wrong, everyone will.

I guess we're back to the analogy about outlawing hammers.

like i said though you might not be like this but please don't try to convince SE that someone isn't using it like that.

The question isn't whether or not someone is using it like that. You keep insinuating that everyone uses it like that. I have a parser running pretty much 24/7 because otherwise I forget to turn it on when I want it to be running. It runs in the background and I honestly don't pay any mind to it the majority of the time. If things seem to be dying more slowly than usual or we're running into a wall on a DPS check, I'll go look at it. Most of the time even if someone is underperforming, I don't say a thing to them.

Oh and about the snakes, like I said why would you need a program to win the fight that's my question to you.

You keep coming back to this strawman of "needing a program to win the fight". Parsers don't do the fight for you.

All they do is sort the information from the battle log into a more readable format.

I am pretty sure people have done it perfectly without it, whats the problem that you need this tool so bad or you can't do it without it or something?

I am done talking about parser's for now but like I said, if I run into cussing and putting down i'll be sure to record it each time or take pictures and post them for you and I'll show you baseless okay? peace bro.

The vast majority of people asking for an ingame parser have experience with at least some endgame material (X primals, coil, alex savage) and know how much of a benefit it can be. It helps immensely in any fight that has a hard DPS check involved. I mean, I've landed in Duty Finder groups that can't even make the DPS check on Faust in A1 normal. Currently, the people that are having problems with low DPS (whatever the reason may be, low gear, bad rotation, not paying attention, etc) either get kicked without telling them why or the group just disbands. How does that help them? Making the DPS information available ingame would give some solid, tangible data for people to show them to prove that they need to improve if they want to get anywhere.

Not to mention it could give you a baseline of what your DPS should be. If you go into a dungeon as a monk and you're doing 300 DPS but the other monk is doing 1200, you know it's either time to upgrade some gear or go research your rotation. Nobody's saying that having low DPS is free license to treat other players like shit, but there's a point at which you have to stop molly-coddling them. There's much nicer ways to break to someone that their DPS is subpar than cursing at them or telling them to "gitgud" (neither of which are constructive). We can help each other get better at the game and still be civil to each other.

If people that are underperforming think they're doing fine and nobody tells them otherwise, they'll never know that they aren't. If they don't know that they're coming in subpar, how are they supposed to go about improving?