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    Odett's Avatar
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    I can say the same to you, it doesn't entitle you to use a parser to judge people just for low dps.

    that's why SE doesn't want to give it to you, what you are saying right now is the point I am making, you think you are entitled but not others.

    What makes you better or anyone for that matter than someone else?

    What is a subscription for to play the game, having low DPS is not disrupting you as a player, the only reason you know this is because of your parser, if you didn't have it, you wouldn't know thus you can't put the blame on anyone and that's exactly what im pointing out.

    Exactly the reason I hope square does not allow this to happen in game your way of thinking is bad for the game.

    To me I play to have fun, if a person messes up oh well, stand up do it again and beat it, I don't complain and how you ever going to expect someone to get better if you all keep kicking people out.

    Yet you say get better and they can't you guys are really something you know that? elitist what you gonna do.
    Your first point applies to you as well, you know. You're as entitled to play poorly as your group is to kicking you. How is having low DPS not disrupting runs? Have you ever heard of a DPS race? If a group is dying during a DPS race and one person is underperforming, then that is totally disrupting a run. Whether you had the parser or not, you would STILL WIPE, but having a parser allows you to get an idea of what's wrong due to low numbers, and deal with a situation accordingly instead of disbanding the entire group.

    Having fun and playing well are not mutually exclusive, by the way. I have more fun with people that play well clearing content than being stuck with a group of people dying to the same mechanics/phases of a fight over and over again and answering with "just stick to your job" when given advice.

    You've mentioned that you've gotten kicked from groups before. How many times have you gone on YouTube or visited the DPS forums and read a guide pertaining to your job? You seem to think that DPS players pulling their own weight is a luxury rather than a requirement. Someone else said this before and I'd like an answer to the following question. If a tank is playing poorly, it is noticeable and the group will wipe. If a healer is playing poorly, it is noticeable and the group will wipe. What gives you a free pass as a DPS?
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    Last edited by Odett; 09-13-2015 at 08:41 AM.

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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Also, I'll ask again. Would you keep an underperforming tank who keeps losing aggro and cannot be bothered to get it back, which causes the party to wipe? Would you keep a healer who doesn't heal enough to keep players alive, so party dies and wipes? So what makes DPS so special that they can underperform and not be held accountable?
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    You've mentioned that you've gotten kicked from groups before. How many times have you gone on YouTube or visited the DPS forums and read a guide pertaining to your job? You seem to think that DPS players pulling their own weight is a luxury rather than a requirement. Someone else said this before and I'd like an answer to the following question. If a tank is playing poorly, it is noticeable and the group will wipe. If a healer is playing poorly, it is noticeable and the group will wipe. What gives you a free pass as a DPS?
    Take all of my likes! I seriously hate this double standard. I can't fathom going into DF and not doing my best no matter what my role is. I usually tank or heal, but I enjoy playing DPS too. It's nice to have less pressure on you sometimes! Any time I get a class to 60, if I'm going to be playing it at all I either go research on google or "phone a friend" and pick their brain about the job.

    Now that I think about it, it's funny how nobody in the anti-parser crowd ever has an answer for this question.
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Now that I think about it, it's funny how nobody in the anti-parser crowd ever has an answer for this question.
    They seem to conveniently ignore that question because they don't have an answer which would support their view on not having parsers.
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