Parsers and Problems

[Kaurie]

this is actually a pretty interesting thought! Do you think the cultures evolved differently because of the 'official' response from the Devs, in one case one effectively banning it (meaning that people could hide behind it) vs. the other case where it was publicly allowed (meaning that people embraced it within the community.)

If we ever do get a parse from SE, do you think it will be embraced or do you think it will create people who make PF's saying "No parses allowed"? Do you think there will be a negative reaction to its presence?

Before anyone counters that players will leave en-masse if a Parse is introduced, do keep in mind that many successful MMO's have had the presence of parses without issue. I don't think a large portion of the playerbase will be affected or will act upon it.

There may be "No parses allowed" PF's, but PF isn't really a huge aspect of the game. I think most people play with their FC or with DF. I only say this based off experience, but I see maybe 2-10 PF's up at once, the majority are Fate parties, 1-3 are usually random, 1-3 are often unsynced clears and then there may be 1 or 2 BisEX/RavEX or Savage clear/farms. I have to imagine there is more going on than PF suggests.

Regardless, adding in messages like that to PF allows you to be paired up with people with similar playstyles. People who hate parses will join the "No parsing allowed" and people who want it will join the other parties. NBD.

I honestly don't see the problem.

The only argument that holds any weight is that people with toxic attitudes will now have evidence that they can put forth to back up their toxic claims. Instead of "Wow BLM you suck" people can say "Wow BLM, your DPS is less than the PLD's, you suck". I mean, whatever really. They're still there. Why not add parses for the thousands of players that aren't like that and that would benefit from them?

[Sapphic]

Instead of "Wow BLM you suck" people can say "Wow BLM, your DPS is less than the PLD's, you suck".

Whereas that is the wrong way to tell someone, it's still true. Like doing expert on DF and the BRD was doing sub 300 DPS on the bosses. Like really? And they had wanderers active also.A parser would pretty much tell them they have to improve and look at their gameplay.

If players have the misconception they are playing adequetly and cannot see that the rest of the party is, by all intents and purposes carrying them through content they will have the notion that they do not need to improve whatsoever. A parser will make em see with absolute proof that they need to. Wouldn't you prefer to go into Ex primals in duty finder with the confidence that the rest of the party actually play their job to a decent standard? I know I would and might actually use DF for harder content if that happens.

Another argument is players pay so they can play how they want. Yet that allowance is not given for tanks and healers, because if tanks and healers play to the same level as those who make that argument then those same players would complain.