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    You cannot compare agro to DPS. Period. Different classes generate agro at different rates from my experience.

    Was skimming over some other posts. Regarding dragoon's elusive jump. If a dragoon is having to use Elusive Jump because the tank lost agro, there are probably some larger issues at hand. Every scenario is different but some of the ones I can think of off hand are: The tank's agro generation is inadequate (yes blame the tank for not holding agro. no excuses, even on openers.), dragoon is attack the wrong target(?), main tank died and the OT hasn't generated agro. Now there are an infinite amount of different scenarios out there in which a DRG could inadvertently get agro but elusive jump isn't necessarily used for that. In fact I see the agro halving part of elusive jump more as a crutch for helping out an undergeared tank in a dungeon. In a raid scenario (especially a static group) it's most useful for positioning quickly to INCREASE DPS. Not reduce emnity.
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    That said, while raiding or dungeoning ANYTHING could happen. Know what your skills do and how and when to use them is what is most critical. Using Elusive to move out of an AOE is waste, but what if you were stunned or slowed? Then it's a DPS gain to not die. But what could you have done to avoid the stun? OR oops the tank died, do I want to elusive jump? Probably not. I probably want to hit all my defensives and then sprint to kite the mobs away until the tank returns. Once the tank returns maybe then elusive in order to help restablish agro.

    tl:dr
    agro is irrelevant to dps (abilities reduce agro, classes generate agro at different rates, people may die, etc etc etc)
    dps is irrelevant to good playing ability
    good playing ability includes knowing when and how to use ALL of your abilities in various situations
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    Also, parsers are used for more than just calculating DPS. They're also used to look at who was using what buffs when. Like, if your Dragoon buddy keeps dieing to the missles on A1S, before you go screaming at the healers it's nice to know, did he have blood for blood up? did he use any defensives (Foresite, Keen Flurry, Second Wind)? Or what if no one caught who had that lightning debuff on T10 and wiped the raid? Parsers are invaluable. And using parsers doesn't mean you have to be a jerk about it either.
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