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    ForbiddenMonk's Avatar
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    again, if they have to use elusive jump to prevent ripping aggro, very high chance that the dragoon is top single target dps atm.

    Really though? Elusive jump in the opening rotation? now you're talking crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    again, if they have to use elusive jump to prevent ripping aggro, very high chance that the dragoon is top single target dps atm.
    DRGs use elusive jump more for movement rather than for the agro drop.
    like you said, moving between add packs in T10,.
    Getting back to the group after you get away for thunder in T11.
    Got nothing on T12 mostly because melee is pampered there :P
    Add phase in T13 going from bahamut to add or vice versa, elusive jump + dive/dragonfire covers a lot of ground fast.
    Shiva extreme, to get to shiva when the floor is ice and other jumps are on CD.
    Bismarck extreme, changing snakes when your debuff changes.
    Ravana extreme, elusive jump away at prelude so you can DPS longer, and other moments.
    eh you get the gist

    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    so you're telling me, a dps ripping aggro from Tank mid fight is not the top dps atm?
    more of a tank problem unless the DRG got really lucky with crits in opening/burst phase.

    and again agro meter is not representative of DPS, because DPS is not the only thing that creates agro.
    Not even for melee after NINs get their smokescreen stuff.
    and you don't always pay attention to it, you might see the DRG 2nd right when you start fighting the boss, but then you focus on boss and didn't notice the DRG using elusive jump, and now the NIN is 2nd in the agro meter. Does that mean the DRG is doing less DPS than the NIN now? Maybe, maybe not.

    agro meter is simply that, a tool to measure agro.
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    From all my experiences in end game raids, the correlation between aggro rankings and dps output are very high. When I say aggro rankings, I mean the final aggro rankings. I have not encounter a situation where I was ahead of another player in aggro but still lost in single target dps. Again, aggro ranking is a GOOD INDICATOR of dps output, meaning it gives you a relative perspective on dps output but not an exact perspective.



    Read: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...5/blog/798362/
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    Last edited by ForbiddenMonk; 09-12-2015 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    From all my experiences in end game raids, the correlation between aggro rankings and dps output are very high. When I say aggro rankings, I mean the final aggro rankings. I have not encounter a situation where I was ahead of another player in aggro but still lost in single target dps. Again, aggro ranking is a GOOD INDICATOR of dps output, meaning it gives you a relative perspective on dps output but not an exact perspective.
    WHM/AST spamming AoE heals = top DPS, confirmed.

    Apparently Quelling Strikes makes ranged DPS bad, too.
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